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Old 03-12-18, 07:46 PM
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I have the 23rd London's in a/a marked to Gaunt London and to Gaunt B'HAM (the latter aquired from a forum member), if the B'ham version is genuine then it would bump the introduction of the mark back to 1961.......
Hi Leigh,

Could be but that would be a pretty big call to make - I think it would be better to wait for a dated pattern card, Gaunt letter or similar to really confirm the change.

My 1966 date was based on the Gaunt B'Ham marked brass slider Queen's Regt badges falling apart in tropical climates. The was confirmed by a dated letter from the L.M.Arnold from Chief of the General Staff to Gaunt dated Jan 1967.

One can safely assume the issue was pre Jan 1967 given time for badges to fail hence assembled no later than 1966.

As such, and with the doco we have, 1966 can (earing to caution) be the regarded as the most accurate date we have.

This could always change though and the badge you have may help to revisit this year but by itself I would urge caution.

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Old 03-12-18, 10:13 PM
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Exactly - it's a big "if".
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Just arrived, a mint condition East Surrey Regiment cap badge, slider marked to "J.R. GAUNT LONDON" mounted on a folding foolscap sized advertising card of the British Aluminium Company.
Presumably the advertising card was distributed with other unit badges which were perhaps produced by different manufacturers.
The first time I've seen one of these cards.

Edit: I typed "beret" badge - the badge is cap badge sized, it's not the beret badge.
Congratulations Leigh, and well done on collecting this extreme rarity. It looks like an inexplicable find, but a highly desirable addition to any AA collection.

Please can you say what the dimensions are? Mainly, how high is the badge, from base of scroll, to tip of crown?

Many thanks and congratulations again.

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Thanks, will do, I did measure it and then forgot to post the dimensions.......
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Old 05-12-18, 08:15 AM
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Hi Gents

I have one of these anodised East Surrey cap badges in my collection. It is ident to Leigh's one shown above, having the Gaunt London mark on the slider. It is a cap badge not a beret badge and measures 45mm from the tip of the crown to the lowest point of the scroll beneath the letter 'S'.

As documented at length above, they are uncommon, but do turn up. Never seen a beret size anodised and to my knowledge there are no anodised collars. I do however have an anodised button, which has a Kings crown.

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Old 05-12-18, 08:27 AM
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Thanks Bess,

Good to hear from you.

Awra best.

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Hi Gents

I have one of these anodised East Surrey cap badges in my collection. It is ident to Leigh's one shown above, having the Gaunt London mark on the slider. It is a cap badge not a beret badge and measures 45mm from the tip of the crown to the lowest point of the scroll beneath the letter 'S'.

As documented at length above, they are uncommon, but do turn up. Never seen a beret size anodised and to my knowledge there are no anodised collars. I do however have an anodised button, which has a Kings crown.

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Thanks Bess,

Good to hear from you.

Awra best.

William

I measure the badge I have as 43mm X 43mm with the width of the star being 35mm.
I have one AA East Surrey's button, kings crown, fixed loop, 25mm diameter by ". BUTTONS LIMITED . BIRMINGHAM "
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Old 06-10-20, 03:30 PM
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Does the BAC card have any dates or script that could be date related?

When was the BAC in existance?

This may tie down the date that the badge was attached to the card.

Alan, lookin at the 23rd London Regiment (East Surrey) (TA) - these seem to have correct slider and marking for period so I don't believe they are 'knock offs'.

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"Alamy" shows a BAC advert from a trade magazine "circa 1955", that's similar in general style to the leaflet shown in post no 1, not that it firms up a date in relation to leaflet or badge.

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-ad...-56717323.html
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I have a large and medium KC and QC button to East Surrey Regt I think the QC was worn by 23rd London.

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Just got this one, arrived today from ebay, looks the same as Leigh's example, which looks the same as the one on p605 in Chris's book, though the dims are slightly out, mine is 42 x 43mm.
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Old 12-03-24, 01:51 PM
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Yes, looks the same as mine, though I haven't access to my badge at the moment.
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That's a good one Jerry.
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I was happy it was a good one and not very common it seems.
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I was happy it was a good one and not very common it seems.
Not at all. They do come up ,a few a year but not common at all. Only ever seen them with the Gaunt London mark.
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As mine also and to echo the comments above - dont turn up every day.

According to K&K sealed in 1954 along with the small beret badge (not anodised).

Below my examples for confirmation, including the small brass and bi-metal example for size comparison - marked Buttons Ltd on the slider.

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