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I think the gold coloured badge was worn by the RTR band, can anyone confirm this? Regards, Bill
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Armoured cavalry, were issued black berets in 1939 or shortly after. The reason they don't wear them now is because they made the changes themselves. I think there are one or two who still wear black, like the QRL, but I'd need that confirmed.
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Not that ive ever seen Mick. Yet if you look closely at some examples you can see the place where the slider would be located.
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I mentioned the gold badge to a lady that works for the museum .She didn't mention it,so presume that if it was a band item she would have said so.
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QRL and the Black Beret
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The RTR wear black berets, nobody else. The other cavalry regts wear dark blue except for the KRH who wear brown and the RSDG who wear grey and the QRH with their green.
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Will post pics of it if I get it. Mick
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The Observer Corps wore black berets too, with RAF blue uniforms. The IRA wear black berets too EDIT: http://www.1rtr.net/blackberet.html confirms that the entire Royal Armoured Corps wore black berets from 1940 onwards. The current schedule for the wearing of black berets is: Royal Tank Regiment W (Westminster Dragoons) Squadron Royal Yeomanry
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It is not till you see a Black and a Dark Navy Blue Beret next to each other that you really see the difference!
Royal British Legion Standard Bearers are meant to wear a Black Beret, but many wear Dark Blue as the are more available. Last edited by Mike_2817; 20-08-14 at 01:11 PM. |
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Id love to see it if you do Mick.
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This is why I was surprised to see old Korea hands from the 8th wearing black berets and why I asked them about it. Of course the link I gave is a confirmation, one amongst many, that the entire RAC wore a black beret from 1940 onwards. It wasn't until post 1945 that the RTR laid claim to the black beret as the distinction it had been pre war but even then it's not exclusive in the army as I've shown.
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Ive been looking into the blackened badge thing. The following comes from the assistant curator of the tank museum.
The black anodised RTR was manufactured in response to the soldiers painting them black. They were first issued to 3RTR for a tour of NI. |
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That's kind of what I thought. After 1980 a lot of units issued blackened badges for the same reason. Even in the UDR where we had quite happily worn a gilt finish Maid of Erin we were then told to wear blackened ones as other ex UDR guys on this site will confirm.
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The Armour at CAD Kineton did mine with 'Weapon Black' the paint used to touch up or finish weapons that were worn to the metal, as it was hard wearing. I never saw a commercial RAOC example.
I regard any badge that was worn in service as collectable, be it a Prototype, Issued & Approved, NAAFI or PRI Specials, or sold by the Garrison Militaria Shop. As well as local produced examples such as Indian Cast etc. Badges painted or blackened for Service in N.I. included (Worn by me as it happens) or for wear in the Commando Ordnance (now Logistic) Squadron. Note: My collecting criteria may not be the same or as tightly defined as some! for a start its limited to one Corps! which means easier to research Last edited by Mike_2817; 20-08-14 at 05:10 PM. |
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