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Old 02-12-18, 11:28 AM
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Default Unusual King's Liverpool cap/collar.

Any help with this one would be appreciated.
Not the usual pre 1926 type, certainly not one I've come across, any thoughts?
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Old 02-12-18, 12:54 PM
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Yes an officer's collar badge. The 'usual' one (horse rearing on a scroll) is the 1895 Pattern. What you have however, was an 'alternative' collar badge (there was an alternative cap badge too) that was initially made by J&Co in 1896 but I think that this one is Firmin - the construction and lettering is almost identical to their other KLR badges. It has become clear to me that various manufacturers were copying badges of other competitors.

The unusual aspect of this one is that the twists of the torse are plain rather than the alternate lining (?) and plain ones if you see what I mean. I hope this will do for the moment but I'll look through my notes after lunch.
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Old 02-12-18, 02:12 PM
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Thanks Julian, interesting my first thought was 1950's small cap badge then I notice "The King's" scroll. Well made badge, I assume it would have been originally plated silver and gilt?
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Old 02-12-18, 03:25 PM
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Tony,

Julian is correct in that it is a collar badge but they were worn by some of the V.B.`s as cap badges.

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Old 02-12-18, 04:15 PM
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Peter thanks, nice to see the badge on a cap, a lovely item.
Good to know it was used as a cap badge as well as collar.
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Yes, it's another unofficial one - but at least both have the inscription THE "KINGS" which was current from c 1896 (according to a WO note at the NAM) up to 1926 at the latest.
However it is specifically a collar badge worn (on Peter's cap) - officers did wear collar badges in their caps, berets etc every now and again - but strictly speaking unofficially.
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