Royal Dublin Fusiliers insignia

[MH331]

John,

I do not have Churchills book I must obtain a copy. Many thanks for the additional information. I am most grateful.

Mark

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by John Mulcahy

Mark

103rd Regiment which became 2 Bn R.D.F

John

Interestingly the 103rd was the senior regiment of the two that formed the RDF by quite a huge margin, but because it came from the junior presidency of the two (Bengal) it had to take second fiddle to what became the 101st (Madras). I cannot think of any other line regiment that lost quite as much seniority when taken onto the British establishment, although the 21st (RSF) lost quite a bit too.

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by mark holden

John,

I do not have Churchills book I must obtain a copy. Many thanks for the additional information. I am most grateful.

Mark

Mark that badge must be extremely rare, as Colin Churchill was not able to find an example to photograph for his book and had to resort to a line drawing, one of very few in the book. I am not sure if he is still alive (he is quite an elderly gentleman), but if he is then I am sure that he would be over the moon to get a photograph of the badge for any future update to his excellent and unique book.

[MH331]

Toby,

Happy to provide any pictures he wants and thanks for the additional info.

Mark

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by mark holden

Toby,

Happy to provide any pictures he wants and thanks for the additional info.

Mark

My pleasure Mark.

I do not know how to contact Colin Churchill but hopefully someone on this forum will know.

I am sure he will be grateful for a photo of it and so will future collectors and researchers, as it's much better than the line drawing that he had to use.

[DJT]

This is a nice Gaunt marked badge I picked up recently. Is it actually a cap badge? I seem to recall some debate about these possibly being collar badges? Photographed next to a standard cap badge for comparison.

[MH331]

Des,

Its a collar badge.

regards

Mark

[DJT]

Hi Mark,

Thanks for replying.

[John Mulcahy]

Originally Posted by mark holden

Des,

Its a collar badge.

regards

Mark

Indeed it is.

Des this is the design authorized for officers service dress in 1902. The loops identify that it is a collar badge by intent rather than a cap badge (which would have had blades). The design for cap and collar in OSD was initially identical except for the fitments (and perhaps facing pairs for collars however the Dress regulations say nothing about facing pairs only that the badge for OSD collar is the same as the OSD cap badge).

It appears in the 1904 & 1911 Dress regulations however Army Orders issued 1 Aug 1913 authorized the removal of the scroll from the OSD collar badge for The Royal Dublin Fusiliers by authority 55/Infantry/247.

Thus this design can be dated 1902 -c.1913, after 1913 the officially aithorized OSD collar badge was this design but without the scroll.

John

[MH331]

John,

Thanks a much more erudite reply than mine with your normal standard of excellent info.

regards

Mark

[DJT]

John,

Many thanks for the detailed reply. Very interesting!

[Wayne Ihaka]

some collars for RDF

[billy]

Hi thought you may wish for this R.D.F. Officers "Collar" turned into brooch, although repair needed! being Left facing does help in identifying it! but nice and clean strike for you all and may help someone been interesting to go through this thread and enjoyed it immensly cheers billy

[DJT]

Thanks for the additional replies Wayne and Billy.

[leigh kitchen]

The badge shown in post 62 - is this not a WWI era officer's bronzed cap badge, minus the finish? Or a copy of it?

I've seen at least one photo of it in wear & bought one a few weeks ago as a OSD cap badge.
When it arrived I didn't like the look of it at all & returned it for refund, along with the w/e bladed RMF OSD cap badge I bought with it.