Your opinions please on this recently acquired "Duck and Bastard" badge

[marinus]

Good evening gents,

Please share your opinion on the attached images of this recently acquired "Liverpool Pals" badge.
I think it's genuine but I like to have a confirmation of the more knowledgeable here.

Although I'm not a WW1 badge collector I agree with a prominent here on the forum that "everyone should have one of these beautiful badges".

Currently I'm even reading Graham Maddocks book on the history of the "Pals" which is very impressive.

Regards from The Netherlands,
Marinus

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[manchesters]

Perfect example.

regards

[Luke H]

A textbook example in mint condition. Even I tickled it a little on the bay.

Whilst not cheap you got a great deal on it.

[marinus]

Simon, Luke,

Thank you very much for your quick responses!

Regards, Marinus

[manchesters]

Just out of curiosity why do you call it a duck and bastard badge?

Regards

[altcar73]

Duck = Eagle.

Bastard = Child.

Pure assumption on my part. The Public House, the "Eagle & Child" in Huyton on the outskirts of Liverpool was named after Lord Derby's Coat of Arms. The badge itself was depicted in colour on the pub's sign. From the police point of view, it was a very "bad" pub. Long since closed.

Dave.

[marinus]

Originally Posted by manchesters

Just out of curiosity why do you call it a duck and bastard badge?

Regards

Simon,

It's from Graham Maddock's excellent "The Liverpool Pals" book.

"There were in 1914, as there are today, more than a few public houses in the Liverpool area named "The Eagle and Child', whose inn sign bore the Derby crest. Thus the idea began to take root, that the Derby Battalions ought to wear the Eagle and Child of the Derby family."

...

"Certainly the Derby badge was a great mark of distinction for those who wore it, although it was not always referred to with due reverence! It was known, variously as 'Derby's Duck', "The Bird', "The Bird and Bastard', "The Duck and Bastard', 'The Ruptured Duck', "The Constipated Duck', and even worse!"

Regards,
Marinus