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#46
17-06-10, 06:32 PM
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Hi Kevin
The DH Other Ranks badge converting to a brass "coated bronze" badge is cheaper than a bronze badge. Many Regiments have "economy badges" during the Great War..... the LYPAO KK1423 other Ranks is in fact an economy badge .....the change in design from the LY Wreath badge to the "Berts crest" basically cuts down the metal to a third.....so the c1916 change in this respect makes perfect sense and very economical at the same time (its probably why they removed the "South Africa" scroll as well). So the great mystery of why the LYPAO O/Rs adopted the Officer "looking" pattern during the Great War is solved in this light also 
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Last edited by GriffMJ; 17-06-10 at 06:37 PM. 
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#47
15-03-11, 01:30 PM
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Hi All
Got this the other day...... I think its "on the money" (Its certainly the one in Wilkinsons book)?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro
Last edited by GriffMJ; 15-03-11 at 01:46 PM.
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#48
15-03-11, 07:39 PM
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I don't know how authorative it is but Doyle and Foster's "British Army Cap Badges of the First World War" says Th eRWY wore a bi nmetal , The DH a bronzed one and 15th London Black.
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#49
16-03-11, 09:58 AM
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Photo proof of the DH badge used in 1916...
George STEPHENSON
5, Market Place, Prescot George enlisted in late 1916 as a Private with the 2/1 Denbighshire (Hussars) Yeomanry Cyclists Battalion. In August 1917 his letters reported that he was training as a Cadet (No.4 Coy, G.O.C. Magdalene College Cambridge). In December of that year he was serving as 2nd Lieutenant with 2/1 Royal 1st Devon Yeomanry (East Dereham). Pictured (below) as a Trooper in the Denbighshire Hussars (Yeomanry).
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Last edited by GriffMJ; 16-03-11 at 10:14 AM.
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#50
12-09-11, 05:43 PM
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Picked this one up recently. Showing before and after cleaning and together with a gilt scrolled variant.
These are of course Officer's silver and gilt patterns. The gilt scroll version appears to be Gaunt made as the pattern is exactly the same as an OSD bronzed example I have with a Gaunt plaque, whereas the silver scrolled version is the exact match for another OSD bronzed version I have on it's hat.
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#51
02-01-12, 02:05 PM
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This match box holder has appeared with cap badge dated 1917 as "trench art". The cap badge that is on the match box cover is on the left.... all brass
Is it a real one.... either of them?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro
Last edited by GriffMJ; 02-01-12 at 04:11 PM.
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#53
02-01-12, 04:13 PM
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Below is a 10th Hussar and a Pembroke Yeo (Gaunt BHAM) with the same feathers....
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro
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#54
03-01-12, 12:05 PM
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Gruff,
Following on from my email last night regarding the matchbox cover, both the badges posted by you are modern copies similar to the one on the cover. They are not restrikes as the pattern of ribs on the feathers is wrong.
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#55
03-01-12, 12:10 PM
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Thanks Kevin
This badge is being sold on ebay as 15th London Btn...... by a chap in California?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro
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#56
03-01-12, 12:18 PM
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Griff, 100% with Alan on this one, the badge bears all the hallmarks of a copy! Andy
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#57
03-01-12, 12:29 PM
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100% with the collective on this
I thought the matchbox holder looked odd (but it is meant to be Trench art)..... and was a bit thrown when I saw the cap badge and its "crispness"...... the "Oily" appearance in the back of the badge has more than a hint of "just pressed" about it - but is it oily... maybe its the photo?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro
Last edited by GriffMJ; 03-01-12 at 04:52 PM.
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#58
03-01-12, 03:27 PM
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So..... the one on the right is a copy of the copy? There is some very crisp detail in the left one?
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro
Last edited by GriffMJ; 03-01-12 at 04:52 PM.
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#59
21-01-15, 01:50 PM
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Griff,
I can not find the thread in which you coloured in B&W images to represent a Bim Cap Badge and collars. However I owe you an apology and I did doubt that a Bim ORs pattern cap badge existed, having never seen anything other than Gm or Bronzed, until now! This is the correct pattern for DH and although there are no vent/sweat holes rear of the overlay, I am happy that it could well be an example of the Bim badge you eluded to? And not Wilts or another POW pattern badge which has lost a base scroll. Andy
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#60
21-01-15, 02:01 PM
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Andy
I saw that the other day and gave it a miss... to date I have not seen one (a BiM) with a slider that I would be happy with .... only looped. Lambourne would be one maker of the POWFs that i would be happy with..... but try and find a BiM with a slider that has not had a scroll broken off it. The search goes on.....
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Cofion gorau Gruffydd M-J www.paoyeomanry.org.uk "A Yeoman from the Stalwart Rural Cavalry" Lechyd da pob Cymro
Last edited by GriffMJ; 21-01-15 at 02:25 PM.
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