WW2 RNPS HARRY TATE NAVY BADGE ROYAL NAVY PATROL SERVICE SEW ON 32mm RIBBON COPY

[yorkstone]

Collectors be ware a new fake to me on the market

WW2 RNPS HARRY TATE NAVY BADGE ROYAL NAVY PATROL SERVICE SEW ON 32mm RIBBON COPY


eBay item 294108614546

Regards

Stephen

[btns]

Here is the link:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294108614...MAAOSwzgxgbdLC

[Ashton]

Whats the problem the seller says its a copy ,and its not a good one these have been around for the past 20 years

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by yorkstone

Collectors be ware a new fake to me on the market

WW2 RNPS HARRY TATE NAVY BADGE ROYAL NAVY PATROL SERVICE SEW ON 32mm RIBBON COPY

The listing first appeared in April 2021 and so far 21 have been sold , don't know if it would be marked on back as a "copy".

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[leigh kitchen]

Originally Posted by Ashton

Whats the problem the seller says its a copy ,and its not a good one these have been around for the past 20 years

I wasn't aware that they'd been on the market for a couple of decades, bad copies or not, buyers fault or not for buying them as genuine further along the collecting food chain,it's always good to get a heads up.

The originals are silver aren't they, the ebay offering looks not to be?
We're originals produced plated or in white metal?

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

The originals are silver aren't they, the ebay offering looks not to be?
We're originals produced plated or in white metal?

Found this :

The most important distinction given to the Royal Naval Patrol Service was an exclusive silver badge. Officers and men of the Patrol Service were awarded this badge after a total of six months service at sea. It could also be awarded beforehand to those showing worthy conduct while engaged in action

http://www.harry-tates.org.uk/history1.htm


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[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

The originals are silver aren't they, the ebay offering looks not to be?

Another eBay seller is offering replica/copies :

Moulded from an original badge and this has a reg number dating to around 1942.
Cast in lead free pewter and hand polished.

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[leigh kitchen]

I fan' you.

[Ashton]

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

I wasn't aware that they'd been on the market for a couple of decades, bad copies or not, buyers fault or not for buying them as genuine further along the collecting food chain,it's always good to get a heads up.

The originals are silver aren't they, the ebay offering looks not to be?
We're originals produced plated or in white metal?

The originals are silver the one my dad was awarded is hall marked, but he did say you could purchase a second one in Portsmouth shops/military outfitters in plated metal

[leigh kitchen]

Interesting, I didn't know about the private purchase version.
I have one of the sew on type (given to me by a workmate who found it on the beach at Yarmouth or Lowestoft when he was a kid around the 1980's, can't remember off hand) and one of the pin back version, both silver.
The sew on has had the serial number covered with a blob of solder.

[Holyboy]

Fairplay Yorkstone for flagging it up new collectors might get caught out even with the copy in the description it’s odd but lots of forum members think it’s ok to sell repro and restrikes

[yorkstone]

Holyboy
Many thanks
Reproduction items have no place in my collection I also find this an anomaly that I find baffling to.

This item will confuse many hence flagging it up!

Good hunting all.

Regards

Stephen

[Hoot]

Originally Posted by Holyboy

Fairplay Yorkstone for flagging it up new collectors might get caught out even with the copy in the description it’s odd but lots of forum members think it’s ok to sell repro and restrikes

Yes, it's always struck me as odd that the purveyors of crap are tolerated on this forum. It appears that if a crap merchant states that the worthless garbage they sell is repro then thats ok but, in reality, it's not ok at all. It's what happens further down the line when the junk re-emerges as the "genuine" article and some hapless novice collector gets shafted, that's what pees me off.

[CAM]

Originally Posted by Hoot

Yes, it's always struck me as odd that the purveyors of crap are tolerated on this forum. It appears that if a crap merchant states that the worthless garbage they sell is repro then thats ok but, in reality, it's not ok at all. It's what happens further down the line when the junk re-emerges as the "genuine" article and some hapless novice collector gets shafted, that's what pees me off.

Hadn't really thought of it that way before Hoot. See my https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=86266

Chris