white and green 2nd Bn SWB title

[JerryBB]

A very pleasing addition to my welsh and cloth and shoulder titles collections, it arrived today, 2nd Battalion South Wales Borderers, a unit with an interesting WWII heritage being both the first welsh unit to see combat in Norway along with no2 independent company in 1940, as well as being the only welsh unit to come ashore on D'DAY.

I assume this example dats after the normandy landings, but it is hard to find out much about the variations for this title apart from some fakes.

[Frank Kelley]

What a lovely thing, Jerry, very nicely made, I don't think that I have ever actually seen an example before, although, I must admit that I have never looked, the green itself is very vivid and pleasing, if only it could talk.

Originally Posted by JBBOND

A very pleasing addition to my welsh and cloth and shoulder titles collections, it arrived today, 2nd Battalion South Wales Borderers, a unit with an interesting WWII heritage being both the first welsh unit to see combat in Norway along with no2 independent company in 1940, as well as being the only welsh unit to come ashore on D'DAY.

I assume this example dats after the normandy landings, but it is hard to find out much about the variations for this title apart from some fakes.

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

What a lovely thing, Jerry, very nicely made, I don't think that I have ever actually seen an example before, although, I must admit that I have never looked, the green itself is very vivid and pleasing, if only it could talk.

Thank you Frank. It is indeed very pleasing and trying to find genuine examples seems somewhat difficult, even just in pics. I could not find another on this forum, though no doubt someone will, in an album....

[JerryBB]

I took this photograph last time was in the museum in Brecon

[Postwarden]

An interesting and unusual title. Placing it is quite difficult.

It has the appearance of a German made title similar to lots of formation signs acquired in Germany by occupying units.

The regiment's 2nd Bn was the only one to serve in NW Europe remaining with 49th Division's 56th Brigade until transferred to the 53rd Division where it was by January 1946 according to 53rd Div's published history. I would suggest that it was acquired by the Bn during that period.

The example you show from the Museum with the sign of 53rd Division looks similar which would seem bear this theory out.

Other thoughts welcome.

Jon

[cbuehler]

It does very much appear to be a German made Bevo woven title.

CB

[JerryBB]

thank you Jon and Cb for commenting


early post war with it being german made makes sense.

does anyone have any evidence the embroidered white and green version was worn during the war such as this example? It appears to be a glue/paste/size/starch back.

[JerryBB]

I have this pennant for the 53rd welsh division from the same period, it was originally for sale with a 160th brigade football medal dated 1945-6, though I only managed to get the pennant but did save the pics. Even though 2/SWB became part of 158th brigade after april 1945 this is from the same period

It appears to be foreign made, perhaps german.

[fearnaught]

Hi Jerry, sorry to butt in on this but I do include a white on green title. I'm curious if any of these titles could have been used by the 6th Bat. whilst it was 158th RAC Reg? My usual collecting is rather a scatter gun technique which explains the plethora of titles, thanks in advance and hope I haven't upset anyone jumping in, best wishes Mike P.S I think your title is illustrated in Jon's book no. 3886 with a XXIV in the same shade of green.

[JerryBB]

some nice titles there mike, I have a XXIV but yet to get a green and white embroidered title or a woven XXIV

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