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29-10-17, 05:54 PM
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Gloucester Regt.Back-badge question.
Hello gents. My question about the Gloucester back-badge is, .....I know the back-badge was made with a slider and also with lugs.....why. Is it a maker's decision to go slider or lugs,easier to make with the slider than with lugs......
Are the back-badges with lugs older than the back-badges with sliders or vice-versa.......can we determine the era when they were worn..... Thanks Jo
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29-10-17, 06:23 PM
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In their last years the ORs in the Gloucesters had lugged anodised badges in silver and in gilt.
After the amalgamation the RGBW and then the Rifles continued to wear the back badge. The RGBW examples are bladed of varying lengths and widths. 3 different types,also found in bullion. The Rifles example is the same as the last RGBW pattern except its silver coloured and not gilt.
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29-10-17, 07:59 PM
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Hi All,
Here are links to the timeline for back badges: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ght=Tinto+back http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...to+back+badges Cheers, Tinto Last edited by Tinto; 29-10-17 at 08:07 PM. Reason: Added another link
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29-10-17, 09:56 PM
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Many many thanks to Tinto and Julian for coming up with informations about the back-badges,in my case mine are both 20mm, I had received the info a long time ago and I really appreciate the help.
Also thanks to Mike H for his information. Cheers all Jo
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30-10-17, 07:47 AM
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Thanks Tinto for reminding me !
1882 for back of helmet, bimetal, WM sphinx in GM wreath, c28mm 1896 sphinx in wreath all GM, c 20mm 1918 the 1896 pattern declared obsolete and the 1882 pattern worn again ! 1936 new pattern, very similar to the 1896 one The second one has the Pattern number 4424/1896 - but I'd have to look up the others again. The pattern references ought to have fixings too I don't have any information for the period after 1936 - RACD ledgers stop then BUT they might be in the Min of Supply ledgers, I'll have a look next visit to TNA.
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#7
30-10-17, 09:18 AM
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The next one in the lineage is the plastic back badge.
They then reverted to brass post war and then replaced them with a/a. There was also a green and black cloth back badge worn on the DPM helmet cover when the battalion were the resident Bn in berlin.
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#8
30-10-17, 09:52 AM
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Thank you Alan, for the update.
Jo
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30-10-17, 08:18 PM
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The Gloucesters bullion back badge has a white "Egypt" tablet,whereas the RGBW is gold.
A complete list should really include the back back worn when the Glosters were in the Wessex Brigade and the back badges for the proposed RRGH. I have a silver plated one with long thin blades that was supposedly an Officers one from the Brigade period.
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#10
30-10-17, 08:41 PM
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I have a Glosters officers forage cap, SD cap & beret with "silver" Wessex Bde front badge on the caps, bullion on the beret, bullion back badge on the forage cap, "silver" metal on the SD cap & beret.
I have an officers back badge all in gold bullion, including the tablet, which has "EGYPT" picked out in black thread. It was stated by the vendor to have been worn in circa 1962-63.
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#12
30-10-17, 09:42 PM
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Here you go.......
I haven't got the badge immediately to hand, but it looks like some detail such as laurel berries may be picked out in silver. I can't be sure until I can get it in hand. Would this one be RGBW rather than Gloster Regt? (or was I lied to when I bought it?) I've just remembered, I have a Gloster Regt field officers cap 1950s-60s, with bullion front badge & back badge, the back badge is I think just the sphinx or sphinx with laurel spray rather than wreath. I'll dig out the caps to show badges. Last edited by leigh kitchen; 30-10-17 at 09:54 PM.
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30-10-17, 10:39 PM
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GLOSTERS / RGBW / RGBW LI helmet cover back badges
There seem to be at least six versions of the cloth embroidered subdued GLOSTERS / RGBW / RGBW LI back badge worn on helmet covers:
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=37165 http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=37164 http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=37163 http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=19833 http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=19824 http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=19823 Tim
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31-10-17, 04:11 PM
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The beret is dated 1955, the caps I would think are late 1950's-1960's. I haven't located the beret or SD to take better photos, I think the back badge on the SD cap has tangs rather than lugs but cant be sure:
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31-10-17, 04:17 PM
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Another officers "issue" beret, again, I havn't located it in order to try to check any date, but its 1950's possibly 60's:
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