OK, have found these two badges but don't seem to have taken a scan of the reverses. I will hunt them both out and post photos if there is anything of note
The one has some red enamel in the crown (possibly why it caught my eye in the first place..) and the other is clearly an effort to supply the need for a generic style badge and for firms that had a fairly limited work force and therefor little need for a "unique" badge.
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