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Old 13-09-21, 02:36 PM
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I have started this separate thread as it lapses over a few other threads with a linked theme (hyperlinks included below).

I was very interested in https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...hlight=cyclist particularly Deejayuu’s comment about the brass rose on the 5th (Cyclist) Battalion East Yorkshire Regiment and the comments that the badge may have had a separate brass rose applied in lieu of the standard white metal rose.

I was wondering if there is a definitive answer to the question of what badge did East Yorks Cyclists wear? Was it:

• Regular Battalions’ cap badge that was blackened
• A brass cap badge struck for the Battalion, blackened
• An altered Regular badge with brass replacement rose, blackened.
• Either of the above and then a blackened all gilding metal “economy” badge from 1916?

Notwithstanding the errors in many of the early books on cap badges (see thread re ‘Mistakes/Errors in Gaylor's (and other early published cap badge books)’ https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...omy%26quot%3B:


K & K Vol 1 p448 (1861) states the badge is blackened brass (and at p182 (609) states the ORs badge of the Regular Battalions to be the rose in white metal, the remainder in gilding metal).

Cox also states this in Military Badges of the British Empire p178.

Gaylor (3rd ed.) p113 states blackened Regular Battalions badge

There are a couple of articles too:

J.B. Peters article Cyclists MHS Issue 66, Vol. XVII, November 1966, p. 36 states that “This Battalion wore badge of the East Yorkshire Regiment but blackened.

NB same author is referred to in the ‘Mistakes’ thread - posts 2 & 16 - that “some of the errors in "Military Badge Collecting" … may have originated in an article "Territorial Force and Territorial Army Headdress Badges 1908-1939 " by J.B.Peters in the November 1968 MHS Bulletin)

E.J. Martin’s article The Cyclist Battalions and Their Badges, 1888-1921
Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research
Vol. 22, No. 91 (Autumn, 1944), p. 279 states “[they] wore cap badges of their parent regiments…and black badges”

Chris
Could not the all white metal single piece Volunteer's badge simply have been painted black for wear by the 5th Bn?
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