I believe the photo you mention Rob shows the 1916 version with the scroll removed. I promised I would not say any more on the topic as to the whys and wherefores but suffice to say I’m 100% certain the badge you showed around Christmas and these two are all from the same stable - that being Martin Marsh.
I’ve only said this much as I do not wish for there to be confusion or any sort of credence given to the Marsh die, which I highlighted with the relevant seeding patterns showing it was indeed the same as the fake from his catalogue.
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