View Single Post
  #28  
Old 03-06-12, 09:49 PM
Toby Purcell's Avatar
Toby Purcell Toby Purcell is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Completed colour service and retired
Posts: 3,207
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 54Bty View Post
Extracted from JSP 336 August 2005

DEFENCE SUPPLY CHAIN MANUAL JSP 336 (3rd Edition)
VOLUME 12 PART 3 PAMPHLET 4 SECTION 2

PERSONAL CLOTHING

22. Accoutrements. The following accoutrements are worn with No 2 Dress:

d. Sashes. Red sashes should be worn by duty personnel only in infantry regiments and those with infantry dress traditions. When worn the fringe of the sash is to be level with the bottom of the No 2 Dress jacket. For all others a pouch belt would be a suitable substitute. For most units this would consist of a white belt with black pouch, but with Rifles both items would be black:

(1) By WOs 1 of the Guards Division, Infantry regiments (not RGJ and Brigade of Gurkhas), SAS, SASC and APTC:

(a) Ceremonial - crimson, cotton, shoulder with tassels.
(b) Non-ceremonial - scarlet, polyester, worsted, webbing with tassels.

(2) By WOs 2, SSgts and Sgts of the Guards Division, Infantry regiments (not RGJ and Brigade of Gurkhas), SAS, SASC and APTC on ceremonial and nonceremonial occasions - sash, scarlet, polyester, worsted, webbing with tassels.

(3) By duty WOs/SNCOs - sash, scarlet, polyester, worsted, webbing with tassels, when appropriate.
Not sure what point you are making 54Bty?

Sub para 3 means infantry duty WOs/SNCOs, which is in context with the whole paragraph as per the first sentence of sub para d: "Red sashes should be worn by duty personnel only in infantry regiments and those with infantry dress traditions". i.e. meaning that when on duty the red sash is worn by infantry in working dress (e.g. in days past with pullovers and nowadays with camouflage of whatever pattern) as well as ceremonial and non ceremonial No2 Dress (Paras 1 and 2 refer), it is not saying that they are worn by other arms.

You can read the same paragraph in Army Mat Regs going back donkey's years and the terminology has not chaged now that it is a JSP. Having been in the supply chain for 5 different cap badges I can confirm that is the case.

It doesn't matter who wears it illegally or who turns a blind eye, the fact remains it is an infantry (and associated corps) item of dress and not any other arm of the service.

Last edited by Toby Purcell; 03-06-12 at 10:13 PM.
Reply With Quote