Like I have said in other threads this is becoming a personal if not trying now to be a racist mudslinging match. If the seller and the new owner of the badge are completely happy that is fine as with the thousands of happy ebay customers I have had over the last 18 years. Do these purists realise how much original badges would be and how rare they would be to find if I did not 'peddle my sh one t' All these extra collectors would be chasing the same limited amount of real badges. Many collectors and many museums are very happy to have my reproductions. I do also sell a large amount of original pieces !! I do feel this has now run its course and I do apologise for the way I started the thread, Andy apart from trying to be nasty with your comments I accept that nobody can be an expert in everything and we all make mistakes. By the way I am white but I am afraid I do have Ginger hair! so nobody is perfect, Andrew