Hi Chris, I probably didn't express myself very well. I was implying that as the two pennants came together and the plain pennant was the 15/19th Hussar's who were the RAC training reg. 1984/5, that was probably when they originated , hopefully flown from a tank aerial Thankyou for your input and maybe you could explain the connection between the sales team and ATDU in the 80's and 90's. Their present mission statement piece is all about how much they have expanded in the last 10 years so I can only assume it was different then, best wishes Mike
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