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Originally Posted by Sonofacqms
Luke,
Maybe I phrased my post wrong and if I have muddied the waters I am sorry, I have some maker marked badges in my collection, three bearing the mark of SUTTLE CAMBRIDGE, two were bought in a lot at auction along with other Great War items. The other on a car boot sale.
Suttle had two gentleman's tailors shops in Cambridge which have long disappeared and I would think after collecting and buying badges for over 65 years in and around the Cambridge area I would have more, sadly not.
We have some excellent researchers on this forum, far more knowledgeable than I am and I have learned a lot from being a member of this forum, no doubt there are many original maker marked sliders on badges, but there are also a lot which are wrong and they do seem more prolific now.
I have been caught out by a less than honest dealer with a maker marked slider, which is why I am wary of them, as for Great War badges being of low value sixty years ago, I beg to differ, I have some of Bill Tobins lists from the sixties and RND badges were expensive even then, of course all badge prices are generally relevant
I would be interested to know how many original "Hate Belts" or "Trophy Belts" that are attributed to the Great War era actually have named sliders on them.
Rob
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Suttle was an outfitter as I understand rather than a manufacturer. Therefore they may not have acquired many or had them all marked. However many you’ve seen in your area is still 100% more than me in the London area my whole life. So if there is a very small number comparatively you’ve seen more than most!
As you were talking non-Gaunt I did not include RNDs.
The WW1 makers I am referring to Lambourne, Smith & Wright, Woodward, Bodill Parker etc. made and marked many standard infantry and corps badges which were the crux of my post. As I understand it these were traded in school playgrounds. Even 60 years of inflation on many of these are worth less than a London pint.
Come on are you really saying you want examples of them all on hate belts? I can think of dozens of badges I’ve never ever seen on a hate belt that doesn’t mean those badges are spurious or didn’t exist.
I could direct you to the MM section where you’ll find a nice Bodill Parker & Co marker Norfolk Yeomanry. Finding an example of every maker marked badge on a hate belt is unrealistic.
How many Suttle badges are on hate belts? Assuming for the sake of argument they are WW1 period. Being so scarce there’s a chance none are on a hate belt anywhere.
Most maker marked badges are very scarce v’s those from the same die that are unmarked. How many have a keen enough eye or care enough to identify a certain badge being an unmarked example? Few. Hate belts are at best a lottery and maker marked badges a thunderball amongst that numbers.