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leigh kitchen 17-09-17 08:33 AM

I've only ever seen black, untextured police helmets, & post war Mk IV & V's in a medium blue, untextured
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JBBOND 17-09-17 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by leigh kitchen (Post 420826)
I've only ever seen black, untextured police helmets, & post war Mk IV & V's in a medium blue, untextured
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All the wartime MKII's I have seen have been dark blue, such as the one I showed, same for the post war MKIII's and MKIV's, though perhaps not as dark as the wartime examples.

That said, a serch shows some were black as well as the blue examples and also I had forgotten that senior officers wore white with a badge of rank insignia on it

leigh kitchen 17-09-17 09:00 AM

My mistake - wartime dark blue, ( I didnt think Id imagined black), but the post war ones I've seen were a lighter colour.
Perhaps they varied due to individual police forces painting or repainting them. In Cambridgeshire Constabulary they were still part of "panda car" inventories in the 1980's, possibly 90's.

JBBOND 17-09-17 09:24 AM

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AFS helmet, many of these were shipped during the war to Ireland for use there, most were then repainted and have the extra large AFS letters added over the original smaller AFS letters as can be seen on this example. This example also has a form of rank insignia, three dots, about which not much is known but an officer helmet perhaps.

Across The Fields 17-09-17 10:10 AM

I love the Home Front helmets. I'm always on the lookout for a yellow Gas Identification Officer but they're quite rare, it seems.

wardog 17-09-17 04:23 PM

Thanks for confirming black helmets not used by the Army. Regards, Paul.

Phil2M 17-09-17 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JBBOND (Post 420823)
Phil,

I have seen quite a few POLICE helmets over the years including barn finds and I do not remember them having textured paint. The example I own is smooth and relatively shiny.

Maybe ive just seen rusty ones then? Quite possible :)

JBBOND 17-09-17 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil2M (Post 420892)
Maybe ive just seen rusty ones then? Quite possible :)

Phil,

home front lids seem to have such a variety that anything is possible and I would not claim to have seen anything other than a % of them.

Another, black with a large E to the front, thought to be either Electrical or Engineer (Repair), no one knows for sure, it is not on any of the lists that I know of.

It is named to (Mr) G. Kipling underneath and has a small K on the front probably his initial.

Jelly Terror 17-09-17 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JBBOND (Post 420898)
Phil,

home front lids seem to have such a variety that anything is possible and I would not claim to have seen anything other than a % of them.

Another, black with a large E to the front, thought to be either Electrical or Engineer (Repair), no one knows for sure, it is not on any of the lists that I know of.

It is named to (Mr) G. Kipling underneath and has a small K on the front probably his initial.

'Kipling'? Then the 'E' surely must stand for 'EXCEEDINGLY' :D:D

JBBOND 17-09-17 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jelly Terror (Post 420899)
'Kipling'? Then the 'E' surely must stand for 'EXCEEDINGLY' :D:D

EXACTLY :D

JBBOND 17-09-17 09:28 PM

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Warden Fire Guard, a white helmet with a slight variation on the markings for this position, usually they are W/FG, rather than in this case W(FG), also these are usually on a grey helmet, so doubly unusual.

JBBOND 18-09-17 11:38 AM

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Gloucestershire Home Guard MKII helmet. It has a Glosters badge on the front with H & G to either side and a small back badge. Both appear to be painted, possibly sprayed over a stencil.

magpie 18-09-17 03:26 PM

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Here's another, I don't remember seeing them with the name on other than this one, it was taken out of the window of a shed in 1973 when I was 10, AFS was the transfer as I remember but more has since come away over the years but was never ecomplete.

JBBOND 18-09-17 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by magpie (Post 421007)
Here's another, I don't remember seeing them with the name on other than this one, it was taken out of the window of a shed in 1973 when I was 10, AFS was the transfer as I remember but more has since come away over the years but was never ecomplete.

Nice to see one with his name on it. The AFS decal is much less commonly seen than the NFS. I note from the holes in the rim that it is a MKII no2 1B showing it is made of steel of insufficient quality to be used by front line forces, made of mild steel strip.

JBBOND 20-09-17 01:38 PM

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First Aid Nursing Yeomanry (FANY) badged example, which on its own makes this rare (I only know of one other which I could have doubts about) but also because it is a re-furbished WWI Raw edged Brodie shell fitted with a WWII MKI liner. This type of helmet is known as a MKI*, though most you see are not rimless as many were retrofitted with rims during the great war.


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