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Neil s 27-02-21 12:18 PM

Royal Artillery Opinions Welcome
 
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I like artillery badges so Iv'e finished up with quite a lot
HP's
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Busby Grenades
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Mike H 27-02-21 12:20 PM

54 Bty is the man to ask regarding Artillery badges

Neil s 27-02-21 12:32 PM

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I know these are faked and these all have a lug with a pimple on the end not seen it before good or bad?
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KC gun cap badges in no particular order
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Neil s 27-02-21 12:43 PM

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Gun cap badges cont.
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Attached wheel type
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Luke H 27-02-21 12:57 PM

Gun badges are OK thus far.

The one with the closed crown and on broken loops is Canadian Arty not RA.

manchesters 27-02-21 01:30 PM

The 4 Scottish Volunteer Artillery glengarry badges are in my opinion modern fakes, artificially aged and of poor quality.

regards

Neil s 27-02-21 02:17 PM

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3/4 size beret
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OSD
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Officer Gilt
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Neil s 27-02-21 02:37 PM

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Hi Simon I have not seen one of those badges that I know to be right but I have seen some new ones that are truly awful so I have given one of them a bit of a clean pictures are ok but the colours a bit off more brassy in real life and I still don't know
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manchesters 27-02-21 02:42 PM

Neil,

Everything still screams fake to me, colour, poor defination, wear etc.

regards

Luke H 27-02-21 02:50 PM

Your Scottish Artillery Volunteers badges are what prompted me to post my latest thread since I know they are all in the Martin Marsh catalogue but couldn’t find them.

As Simon states, everything about them screams fake. The loops too do not look right. All are smothered in dried polish on the back. These have been repro-ed vast quantities certainly since Martin Marsh Militaria days of the 1980s and likely long before so some could be 50 years old now.

I’ve never seen a genuine badge to any of these units.

When I find the MM pictures I will post them here if interested.

Neil s 27-02-21 02:57 PM

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QC A/A
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Birmingham mint?
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3/4 size beret
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Neil s 27-02-21 03:11 PM

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Couldn't get this on the last post
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OSD?
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Gilt full size
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Gilt 3/4 size officer quility but slider
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Don't know what to make of the quaility of these
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To modern for me to know about
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leigh kitchen 27-02-21 03:45 PM

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The last badge is RA Piper, 19th, 40th and 103rd Regiments.
All three regiments had Volunteer Pipe Bands, each about 16 strong.

103rd Regiment, (Lancashire Artillery Volunteers) is (or was?) a TA Regiment.

19th (Highland Gunners) and 40th (Lowland Gunners) amalgamated to form19th (The Scottish Gunners) in December 2012.

19th Regiment Robertson Hunting Tartan
40th Regiment Clan Hume Tartan.
103 Regiment Clan Crawford Tartan.

Your badge appears to be identical to one I have, bought on forum in January 2019 and stated by vendor to have been acquired by him from a TA unit in Glasgow in about 1990.

I stand to be corrected, but I think that an earlier version of the badge had the gun mounted rather than being a one piece badge.

Neil s 27-02-21 04:31 PM

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Thanks to Simon and Luke about the glengarrys and Leigh for the information on the pipers
On martin marsh the pictures in the catalog are quite poor maybe a good set of photos of them at some point would be a good idea, not volunteering :D

W/M the second one has a strange coating G/M underneath
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These all seem to be the same strike judging by the uneven spacing of the bolts in the wheel hub
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OSD
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manchesters 27-02-21 05:04 PM

Regarding the two WM badges.

The second has to be gilding metal which has been nickel plated because its a 1917 strengthened version badge. I am assuming the slider is the same silver colour?

As for the first, if the slider is silver coloured as it appears to be, though it may be the photos, it too is a GM badge that has been plated.

Neither could therefore be classed as WM.

regards

Neil s 27-02-21 06:53 PM

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RHA Caps and collars
GRVI
Last is plated bazaar made
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ERII
Don't like the last G/M
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Neil s 27-02-21 07:17 PM

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RHA cont.

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RA Collars
This should have been with the caps second war plastic
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O/R G/M and A/A
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OSD
Middle left Gaunt marked bottom right looks the same unmarked
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Officer Silver/Gilt
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Luke H 27-02-21 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil s (Post 540448)
Thanks to Simon and Luke about the glengarrys and Leigh for the information on the pipers
On martin marsh the pictures in the catalog are quite poor maybe a good set of photos of them at some point would be a good idea, not volunteering :D

They are in the main quite poor being photocopies but with the majority of images it is possible to discern enough distinguishing features to identify the die concerned.

The albums are the best pictures I could do given the original material and an iPhone camera.

Neil s 27-02-21 07:37 PM

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Came with the coated (W/M coloured)Cap
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Couple of TA related not sure when they fit in
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Various Arm again coated badge came with cap and collar
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Pre 1908 Titles
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Artynut 27-02-21 09:31 PM

Very pleased to see your Artillery badges Neil. Will you be putting them into albums? If you did, it would be so much easier to view them in the future. It’s quite time consuming but I believe it’s worth it in the end. (I spent over three hours last night just putting some Artillery buttons into an album and I still have to go back and edit them with all the information about them). As mentioned previously above, 54 Bty is considered the “Guru” and Luke, Manchesters, and a few others have more than once come through with helpful answers to any questions one might have. Best Regards, David J.

54Bty 27-02-21 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil s (Post 540479)
RHA Caps and collars
GRVI

None of these are collar badges, they are all private purchase Pagri or Beret badges.

Marc

fairlie63 27-02-21 11:11 PM

Addictive this Gunner stuff isn't it;)

Keith

Neil s 28-02-21 12:23 PM

As always it's good to see all your comments I would like to mark Luke's last post however I was in no way criticising his photography skills it is all down to the nature of catalog material and as I have seen his thread with the idea of producing what would in effect become a rouges gallery feel a little guilty in seemingly giving him this huge undertaking

Luke H 28-02-21 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil s (Post 540560)
As always it's good to see all your comments I would like to mark Luke's last post however I was in no way criticising his photography skills it is all down to the nature of catalog material and as I have seen his thread with the idea of producing what would in effect become a rouges gallery feel a little guilty in seemingly giving him this huge undertaking

No offence taken in the slightest. I did it about a year ago. About 1,300 pics of badges.

Neil s 28-02-21 01:58 PM

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RGA T Titles 1909-1920
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Neil s 28-02-21 02:10 PM

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Artynut 28-02-21 03:22 PM

Neil, so I’m thinking I should through my stuff away! Not that we’re in a race or anything but if you’ve seen my albums, you’ll realize I can’t keep up with you, as I said before, you’ve got some great stuff there! Regards, David J.

Neil s 28-02-21 03:51 PM

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Neil s 28-02-21 04:23 PM

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I Have miss-placed back views to these:o
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RHA T Titles Somerset clipped 1920 style
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Pouch badges bottom one something else?
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Artynut 28-02-21 07:27 PM

Certainly a curiosity there Neil. Obviously cast and without the sponge end. Originally riveted to something, an equipment box? I am thinking possibly of Indian Manufacture, late 1800s. Probably not used by R.A. But a colonial country somewhere. Just a gut feeling! Regards, D.J.

Neil s 01-03-21 07:11 PM

Had a quick look through your albums David can't see why you think you are behind

Neil s 02-03-21 06:56 PM

Sorry to be so long responding to simon's post 15 W/M the second badge is some sort of plate but the first is W/M and the slider is W/M not plated not 100% sure it's not a replacement but I don't think so

manchesters 02-03-21 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil s (Post 540838)
Sorry to be so long responding to simon's post 15 W/M the second badge is some sort of plate but the first is W/M and the slider is W/M not plated not 100% sure it's not a replacement but I don't think so

I am fairly confident it is plated if it has a white metal coloured slider as well.
It also, at one point in its life had a NAAFI fitted rotating centre wheel fitted on it which has fallen off, hence the un natural centre hole.

It is there that you can see the plating has been slightly removed.

regards

Neil s 21-05-21 06:26 PM

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