25th London Cyclists
 

Heard these have been faked to death but worth a try.......

Not a badge i know Unknown but i couldn't resist it.Regards Phil.

25 LONDONS CYCLISTS
 

Chaps,

I have had this for a while but have a concern about it. Any thoughts?

Alan, I've had a good look. The crown is symetrical, the wording clear. However the slider could be questionable. However, we are in that area of pre 1914 badges that might not be formerly accepted by the War Office and sourced by the regiment. If it is dodgy it looks to be an early one.
Matti

Yes that echos my thoughts. It is a nice solid and well defined badge but the slider is broad. Either it is a TF buy or a very early repro.

25th County of London Battalion (Cyclists)
 

I was quite happy with this blackened brass example of the 25th Londons when I got it, but since looking at some of the great examples in members' albums I now have one or two doubts about it. I'd appreciate your comments please gents:

1) Not too happy about the clarity of the 'TENAX ET AUDAX'; looks a bit ill-defined. Having said that, the example shown in Doyle and Foster's 'British Army Cap Badges of the First World War' (excuse me, Peter) has a similarly fashioned motto.

2) The slider crimp is possibly too contrived... or am I perhaps over-scrutinising?

Cheers,

Peter.

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I would have to agree with your concerns regarding this badge. The quality of strike is suspect as well as that crimp. Not knowing this badge well, will have to wait for others who do to chime in.

CB

hi peter have been looking at crimps on some of my cap badges and there
does seem to be a fair bit of variation with diffrent styles of crimp as in
deep crimps, shallow crimps and differant angles of crimp.
paj1

Watchya Paj,

Agree entirely about crimp variation - what do you make of my example?

PJ

Hi peter ive got a couple of royal engineer cap badges george 5th ww1
patterns very close crimp mark to yours. am not able to post picture
at the moment
paj1

25th cyclists london regiment
 

Hi, I take it as the 25th Battalion was from 1908-19, this is a collar.

Simon.

Hello Simon,

I believe what you have there is a cap badge. What are the dimensions, mate?

The collars worn by officers were the same bronze type worn in thier caps, though slightly smaller versions also existed. Churchill cites a photo taken in 1916 at Richmond Park Camp with officers also wearing a separate bronze 'T' below the collar badge.

ORs wore w/m collars, apparently smaller than the bronze.

The 25th's lineage began in 1881 as the 26th Middlesex (Cyclist) Rifle Volunteer Corps, but then recognised in April of 1908 as the 25th County of London (Cyclists) Battalion, The London Regiment.

Different sources provide slightly differing info about the 25th... ultimately though, by 1923 they ended up as the 47th (2nd London) Divisional Signals.

Here are a couple of mine - the first with lugs... the jury is still out on the bronze one though!

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=37288

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=37287

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=37286

Cheers, mate,

Peter

Simon,

Dug this article out of an old edition of The Armourer; thought it might be of interest:

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Cheers,

Peter

I'd like to see a photo of the back of your bronze one Peter, the shank tip looks pretty good.

I'm afraid in my opinion Simon's one is a copy, I've seen too many like this sold by known restike/copy merchants.

Hi Keith, maybe yes or maybe not. It looks pretty well made for a fake, heavy for it's size. The lugs look pretty good I have to say.

Simon.