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tcrown 22-04-17 08:00 PM

Lanyard on Para BD Tunic
 
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Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum and I was hoping someone would be able to help.
I have acquired recently a battle dress tunic of a sergeant who was in the Intelligence section of the 3rd Para Battalion. I was able to trace his para training to mid 1943. He was demob around 1947.

I'm intrigued about the lanyard which initially I thought was 14th Para (TA). I saw some photos on the forum of a 14th Para lanyard which indicates mainly black with a bit of gold. On mine, it is exactly the opposite. Could it be the Bedfordshire & Hertfordshire Regiment?

It is obviously a walking out BD blouse and I've read somewhere although lanyards were not entirely defined yet among Para battalions during WW2, personnel wore sometime the ones of their parent units.

I wouldn't be surprised in this case the original owner was part of this regiment before joining the Paras because he was from Watford and I would imagine during WW2, people were enlisting in the formations close to where they lived.

Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks.
Pierre

Bill A 22-04-17 08:20 PM

Hi Pierre, welcome to the Forum. Your account is active and open for posts.

fougasse1940 22-04-17 08:40 PM

Welcome. Para Bn lanyards, or coloured epaulette tabs, were quite defined during the war and 3rd Bn wore a red lanyard.

Enlisting was regional, but posting wasn't always as regional as you'd think.

14th Para was formed in May 1947 from the 5th Battalion Royal Hampshire Regiment (TA). Their lanyard is predominantly black with old gold, the colours of the facings of the Hampshire Regiment.

Rgds, Thomas.

grey_green_acorn 22-04-17 08:54 PM

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Does the lanyard look like this one?

Tim

sapper533 22-04-17 08:55 PM

Looks like RAPC to me.
Regards
Sean

Mike Jackson 22-04-17 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fougasse1940 (Post 402509)
Welcome. Para Bn lanyards, or coloured epaulette tabs, were quite defined during the war and 3rd Bn wore a red lanyard.

Enlisting was regional, but posting wasn't always as regional as you'd think.

14th Para was formed in May 1947 from the 5th Battalion Royal Hampshire Regiment (TA). Their lanyard is predominantly black with old gold, the colours of the facings of the Hampshire Regiment.

Rgds, Thomas.

A 14 Para Bn (TA) BD blouse in my possession. Note the buttons. Mike
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tcrown 22-04-17 09:15 PM

Hi Tim,
They look exactly the same. What is it?
Thanks.

grey_green_acorn 22-04-17 09:17 PM

I have it in my album of lanyards as Royal Army Pay Corps but there are different types around.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...p?albumid=2027


http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=91378

Tim

tcrown 22-04-17 09:23 PM

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Hi Mike,
Mine is not 14 Para. It is mainly gold with a bit of black.

tcrown 22-04-17 09:45 PM

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Tim,
A closer look shows gold and dark blue. It looks different than RAPC.

tcrown 22-04-17 11:02 PM

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'Postwarden' provided a detailed list of lanyards on this forum.
On Black/Gold lanyard, it says 'The Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment', hence my first assumption. Thoughts?

Unknownsoldier 25-04-17 07:12 AM

One group of paras used a lanyard made of Paracord didn't they? Slightly off topic but tbh I'm never surprised by finding odd bits on jackets especially if the owner may have worn it to something like a funeral where he might have felt inclined to wear a previous regimental embellishment.

T

Alan O 25-04-17 07:19 AM

The Para signals wore the paracord lanyard and that is not one of them.

Unknownsoldier 25-04-17 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 402818)
The Para signals wore the paracord lanyard and that is not one of them.

Thanks Alan, explains why I have one in my group then :D

tcrown 29-04-17 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcrown (Post 402531)
'Postwarden' provided a detailed list of lanyards on this forum.
On Black/Gold lanyard, it says 'The Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment', hence my first assumption. Thoughts?

I got confirmation from the Archives in Bedford (Nigel Lutt): The lanyard is a Bedfs & Herts Regt one.
"The regiment wore a black and primrose lanyard on the battle-dress blouse. The lanyard was later worn by territorial units of the Royal Anglian Regiment based in the former regimental area"
Source: World Heritage Encyclopedia article WHEBN0013578839


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