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GTB 30-03-16 05:22 PM

Weldon backmark.
 
Went to speak with the farmer before embarking on the 'tecting season and he surprised me with a superb condition RN QVC (pre-1891) medium sized officer's button that he had recently found.
While giving it the preliminary cleansing there appears to be only a partial makers strike 'J. WELDON / ....ILY' Rather strange, considering the only data I have gleaned so far is that there was a C & J Weldon addressed for Cheapside London. I wonder if the partial address could be 'Piccadilly" and if this button could be a precursor! Perhaps more intense cleaning will uncover something else.
Hoping to hear from any of the buttons enthusiasts re this anomaly.

GTB

Cribyn 30-03-16 05:50 PM

Hello GTB

The obvious interpretation is "Piccadilly" but I have never come across a C&J Weldon button with that address as a backmark. It is usually just 'C & J Weldon London' or with the addition of a 'Cheapside' address.

They were making buttons from the 1850s on so yours could well be an earlier address for them. Keep cleaning and let's see what else comes up!

Regards
Roger

GTB 30-03-16 06:38 PM

Definitely only a partial impression. The last 3 letters now appear 'TTY'.. Possibly by some fluke 'ADMIRALTY'?

GTB 30-03-16 07:23 PM

I think I've cracked it!
While googling, came across an older Forum post by 'btns' and which included a backmarks list pertaining to a buttons auction of an old Gaunts sample book. Among these was "C. & J. Weldon, Naval Quality, Warranted U.S. Navy". I can accept that the last 3 letters of the 'address' are 'ITY', and therefore the full backmark should read 'C & J. WELDON / NAVAL QUALITY'. The partial impression was very frustrating but collecting buttons is all about detective work and perseverance.
GTB

Cribyn 30-03-16 07:31 PM

Well done, GTB!

A backmark I have not come across before, partly, I suppose, because I don't collect naval buttons - perhaps I should start!

Roger

GTB 30-03-16 08:28 PM

Yes, you should. There's a wealth of material for pleasure and study out there, and some very well researched matter as well.
Coming back to my button: I guess it would date to mid-Victorian (1860s) and so be in line with the button containing the afore-mentioned buttonmark that was evidently supplied for the American market, most probably during the Civil War period.
GTB

Rob Miller 30-09-20 11:32 AM

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I thought I would add this question here rather than start a new thread.

This 25mm button landed on my doorstep this morning, so I'm wondering is there a Naval use for the Royal Arms button or would this just be a boast about its quality?

Rob

btns 30-09-20 02:44 PM

It is an indication for the quality of the button.
Another backmark was: C. & J. Weldon, London, Warranted to stand the Sea Air

Another company used the backmark: Naval Quality, K
K is Kenning, now part of TKS.

Rob Miller 02-10-20 05:31 PM

Thank you btns

Rob


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