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Britbadge 19-09-19 07:55 PM

Isle of Man Cap or Collar
 
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Can anyone provide information on the following badge: Is it a cap badge or collar dog?

It is my understanding that the KC version was worn as a cap badge, but the QC version is used as a collar badge?

altcar73 20-09-19 09:36 AM

This badge is a "general" badge which was worn by a number of uniformed organisations on the Island. The Prison Service used it as a cap badge. The police primarily wore it as a collar (and later) epaulette badge. However, it was worn as a cap badge by some Special Constables and by police cadets. I hope this is helpful. The QC version is not worn as a collar badge, but is worn on the epaulette above the force number. A smaller version is worn on the lapel of the tunic.

Dave.

Britbadge 21-09-19 06:45 PM

Thank you for clearing up the "muddy waters" regarding this issue. :)

davidcushworth 13-11-19 03:03 PM

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Cap badge.

What is an interesting observation are the way the three-leg motif changes direction with the transition to Queens Crown!

http://www.symphonyofservices.com/ba...dges.html#grid

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altcar73 13-11-19 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by davidcushworth (Post 492179)
Cap badge.

What is an interesting observation are the way the three-leg motif changes direction with the transition to Queens Crown!

http://www.symphonyofservices.com/ba...dges.html#grid

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There are two versions of the QC badge you illustrate. One with the legs going clockwise and the other anti clockwise.

Dave.

davidcushworth 14-11-19 03:33 AM

Dave

Any idea why?

tonyb 14-11-19 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by davidcushworth (Post 492247)
Dave

Any idea why?

Facing collar badges?
Tony.

altcar73 14-11-19 10:52 AM

Quite simple really. In the 1960's the IoM Government were told by the College of Heralds that the "Legs" were facing the wrong way, and had been for a long, long time. The police altered their helmet plates, cap badges and epaulette badges to show the correct positioning. So, as a result, there are two Queen's Crown versions of each of the badges I mention. Other Government Dept. followed suite.

Dave.

altcar73 14-11-19 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyb (Post 492259)
Facing collar badges?
Tony.

No, the epaulette/collar badges are not facing pairs. Each badge is identical.

Dave.


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