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phaethon 03-01-20 02:35 PM

5th Irish Lancers Shako
 
Hi all,

Happy New Year!

Not my area and also I assume heavily faked so would like to hear any opinions of this please:

http://static4.nagi.ee/i/p/1019/80/2549515391ba63_l.jpg

http://static4.nagi.ee/i/p/1019/80/25495155dd7e05_l.jpg

http://static4.nagi.ee/i/p/1019/80/254951576bd435_l.jpg

http://static4.nagi.ee/i/p/1019/80/2549515900707e_l.jpg

grenadierguardsman 03-01-20 07:11 PM

Looks in mint condition. I wouldnt know if genuine though, although it does look nice.
Andy

Lancer 17 04-01-20 07:22 AM

Whilst it looks to be ok, the screw posts and the fixing nuts look to be right, my worry is that it looks to be so new and shiny and that doesn't look to be right for a plate that should be 100 + years old.

All my plates have toning, especially on the back and show remnants of having been cleaned during their lives.

Sorry but Id be very cautious of this plate.

Regards

Phil.

Luke H 04-01-20 09:36 AM

These plates have been reproduced for a considerable amount of time by electroforming which produces a perfect clone down to the micron level. I’m yet to hear from anyone how it’s possible to differentiate a genuine plate from such a reproduction with correct size fixings.

Frank Kelley 04-01-20 10:02 AM

I think, just from the photographs, that is unlikely to be original, the rankers pre 1914 lance cap plates have been done to death certainly for over a couple of generations now, with the wretched Redbreasts receiving particular unwelcome attention.
Originals tend to show their age and do stand out, they were produced in a very thin and surprisingly brittle metal and I believe gravity was used in their manufacture with the result that you normally will find holes where the very sharp die has pierced the metal.


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