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atillathenunns 14-01-19 08:07 AM

1907-1917 Maxim Machine Gun Proficiency Badge
 
Thought I would share my rare Maxim Machine Gun proficiency badge which was first established in ‘NZ Regulation No. 601 of December 1907’.

https://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f...psccm7zbec.png

leigh kitchen 14-01-19 09:10 AM

Interesting badge - if it turned up in Britain I'd probably just immediately think "Mortar" rather than "Maxim", not paying much attention to the style of "M".

atillathenunns 14-01-19 09:48 AM

NZ Volunteers/Territorials commonly used old English characters on proficiency badges from 1895 up until the end of WW1.
Many NZ proficiency badges were direct copies of British badges, so am interested if this old English style "M" was used by the British or any other Commonwealth countries?

leigh kitchen 14-01-19 09:53 AM

I think not - cue "grumpy" (and others).

manchesters 14-01-19 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atillathenunns (Post 465325)
NZ Volunteers/Territorials commonly used old English characters on proficiency badges from 1895 up until the end of WW1.
Many NZ proficiency badges were direct copies of British badges, so am interested if this old English style "M" was used by the British or any other Commonwealth countries?

The old style 'M' was not worn in the British Army and as Leigh states the normal style letter 'M' was not used until 1957.

A nice and no doubt rare badge.

Is it possible for you to attach the ‘NZ Regulation No. 601 of December 1907’.

regards

atillathenunns 15-01-19 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchesters (Post 465330)
The old style 'M' was not worn in the British Army and as Leigh states the normal style letter 'M' was not used until 1957.

A nice and no doubt rare badge.

Is it possible for you to attach the ‘NZ Regulation No. 601 of December 1907’.

regards

Unfortunately I do not have a copy of Regulation No. 601, but I do have a an article published 18th December 1907 that mentions 601 and also Regulation No. 418A that it was attached to.

https://i.postimg.cc/tgn335Ns/Maxim-...ember-1907.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/qqQr12xK/Maxim-...SENTATIVES.jpg

atillathenunns 15-01-19 09:15 AM

The following advertisement is dated 15th December 1916.
P. Robert & Co were the main supplier of NZ proficiency badges from 1895 up until 1917.
Note all 3 types of machine gun badges including Maxim are listed.

https://i.postimg.cc/NMMZQZ6K/Maxim-...ember-1916.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dQGgwRdm/Maxim-...ber-1916-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/1597Skys/Maxim-...ber-1916-2.jpg

manchesters 15-01-19 11:26 AM

Thankyou for all that additional information.

very useful.

regards

sapper533 15-01-19 12:58 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Sorry to hijack this post but was interested to see the "E in wreath" "Electrician" just above the maxim gunners badge.
Could it be this?
Cheers
Sean

manchesters 15-01-19 01:01 PM

Yes, got to be.

i remember you showing it and was non the wiser then, but after seeing the list .

Another early one. well done

regards

sapper533 15-01-19 01:21 PM

So Not British at all but An early NZ proficiency badge, and which I got from Canada lol

Roy 15-01-19 01:23 PM

A very interesting thread indeed,

Thank you to all.

Cheers,

Roy

manchesters 15-01-19 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapper533 (Post 465438)
So Not British at all but An early NZ proficiency badge, and which I got from Canada lol

Sean,

I suppose we shouldnt discount Canada having a similar trade badge also?

They do have a few peculiar to themselves too.

regards

atillathenunns 16-01-19 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapper533 (Post 465436)
Sorry to hijack this post but was interested to see the "E in wreath" "Electrician" just above the maxim gunners badge.
Could it be this?
Cheers
Sean

Sorry Sean I do not think your "E" badge was made in New Zealand, if you could supply a picture of the back I should be able to confirm.

Brent

atillathenunns 16-01-19 09:04 AM

This is my NZ Machine Gun Spider badge, it was generally only worn by NZ Reinforcements during WW1.

https://i.postimg.cc/FHy0Nx95/Machine-Gun-Spider.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5PZHWLx/Herewa...ist-Compan.jpg


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