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Bill A 08-01-09 01:33 PM

First Hussars
 
How do we date the First Hussars cap badges? I have been told that the wreath of leaves is an indication of the era. The wreath, if it touches the coronet, makes the badge a CEF era badge. Mazeas Pre-1914 shows a gap between the coronet and leaves, Charlton shows no gap, Mazeas 20-50 shows a badge with a gap, and Tripp also shows the badge with the gap. Our 20-50 badge registry shows no gap.
Can the evolution of this badge be clarified?

Doug N 08-01-09 06:06 PM

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The CEF badges were made in England by Gaunt & Tiptaft. These feature a wreath where the maple leafs slightly overlap - the so called 'narrow' wreath. Post WW1 badges made in Canada have adjasent leafs side by side - resulting in the so called 'wide' wreath. The difference is subtle, but you can see what I'm on about by looking at the scan.

I don't know the date when these Canadian made OR badges were introduced, but I'd guess it was early in the militia period. I'd consider the wide wreath OR badge shown in the badge registry to be the 'correct' WW2 pattern.

Gaunt continued to produce private purchase officers badges through WW2, & several variants of these can be found. You can also find narrow wreath OR's badges marked J.R.GAUNT LONDON. I 'm pretty sure these are modern restrikes.

WJ Miller 05-03-10 03:55 AM

1 Hussars Officers collars??
 
Nice cap badges Doug!

Are there matching bi-metal collars for this type of Officer's badge? I've only ever seen brass collars. That leads me to ask if any 1H insignia in OSD bronze exists??

Michael Reintjes 05-03-10 04:38 AM

More 1H caps and collars...
 
here are some WW2 or earlier Officers styles...the Marked badge and collars are Gaunt...they are not Bi Metal but frosted gold. the Embroidered badge is by Hobson and is worn only on the Coloured FSC.They were made fairly early in the war after the units arrival in England.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07230011.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07230012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07230010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07230008.jpg

Michael Reintjes 05-03-10 04:41 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07230009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07230016.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07230009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...icersBadge.jpg

Michael Reintjes 05-03-10 04:44 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...y/IMG_5922.jpg

Michael Reintjes 05-03-10 04:51 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...guy/1hcfsc.jpg

Moe RCNR 05-03-10 02:02 PM

1st Hussars
 
Hi Mike: Wonderful collection of 1st Hussars items. You don't happen to have a spare Hussars gold wire badge or set of officer's collars that you are willing to part with?
Cheers.
Moe.

James S 05-03-10 05:12 PM

First Hussars
 
Just to add. Here is my Officers example. A little different in construction than Michael's examples.
Maker marked J.R GAUNT MONTREAL MADE IN ENGLAND

[IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Firstsmall.jpg[/IMG]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Firstsmall.jpg

Bill A 05-03-10 05:14 PM

Hi James, Could you post a better image of the cloth title above the badge?

Michael Reintjes 05-03-10 06:25 PM

Hussar's badges...
 
Here are some cloth examples including a comparison between a Reproduction and original 6CTR Formation patch at bottom...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ussars0001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ussars0002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ussars0003.jpg

Michael Reintjes 05-03-10 06:43 PM

Some earlier types and collar variations...
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07240002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07240001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07240003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...9_07240005.jpg

mad4thcef 05-03-10 06:49 PM

1st Hussars CEF Cap Badge Babin 10-4
 
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Posted is a CEF badge to the 1st Hussars.

Brass Maker is J.R.Gaunt London on maker plate. Sorry about image can't find camera. Scanner is olde!

I hope this helps to clarify the issue.

Cheers
Rob

servicepub 05-03-10 06:55 PM

Michael,
You really should concentrate on the metal badges and send that tacky, old and worn coloured field service cap to me. :)

Michael Reintjes 05-03-10 07:09 PM

Oh C'mon Clive...You don't need any more musty old hats...you only have one head !:D


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