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High Wood 23-10-20 05:50 PM

1st battalion Monmouthshire Regiment
 
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From a job lot of badges. It has a worrying amount of Brasso on the back. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Alan O 23-10-20 05:57 PM

It's not the 1st Bn. The Dragon is the officers pattern of the 2nd Battalion The officers badge had a scroll beneath,

It was made in brass post WW2 for ORs in what was the TA successor regiment.

Post WW2 the 1st Bn were RA wearing the 1st Bn silver wreath cap badge.

Alan O 23-10-20 05:59 PM

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=115154

A genuine one. There are fakes made using Gaunt Bham marked sldiers froma different die.

High Wood 23-10-20 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 526420)
It's not the 1st Bn. The Dragon is the officers pattern of the 2nd Battalion The officers badge had a scroll beneath,

It was made in brass post WW2 for ORs in what was the TA successor regiment.

Post WW2 the 1st Bn were RA wearing the 1st Bn silver wreath cap badge.

Thank you, I was taking the description from John Gaylor's Military Badge collecting.

Alan O 23-10-20 06:10 PM

Unfortunately it's got it's faults as a reference work.

This is the repro badge
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITISH-A...wAAOSwz1RczULZ

cbuehler 24-10-20 01:20 AM

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Where does this one fit in? Or is it an entirely different badge? These dragons confuse my aging mind.....what is left of it.
(pardon the photo; the sun has gone down)

CB

41st 24-10-20 08:11 AM

That’s the standard pattern worn by all battalions in service dress prior to 1920. The photo is a little blurred but looks to be by F N (Narborough). I have a similar one which has been blackened and is still on the cap which is later than WW1 and would suggest that it was either worn by the 2nd or 3rd battalions as the 1st had changed to their later pattern by that time.

Volunteer Soldier 11-12-20 02:06 PM

1st Bn Monmouthshire Regiment
 
Can anyone help me towards the purchase of an Officers Service Dress badge with lugs? Failing that does anyone have a photo of the badge? Thank you.

49lassiepen 11-12-20 02:23 PM

Have you looked at eddies album He's the man for all Monmouthshire regiment items

eddie 11-12-20 09:18 PM

Monmouthshire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Volunteer Soldier (Post 531652)
Can anyone help me towards the purchase of an Officers Service Dress badge with lugs? Failing that does anyone have a photo of the badge? Thank you.

Hi,
Which Monmouthshire badge are you looking for?
Cheers,
Dave

Volunteer Soldier 11-12-20 10:17 PM

Hello Dave,
The badge I am looking for is the centre one on your photo ie 1 Monmouth OSD
Bronze - dragon on the ground, no scroll with blades fasten.

eddie 11-12-20 10:34 PM

eBay
 
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Originally Posted by Volunteer Soldier (Post 531717)
Hello Dave,
The badge I am looking for is the centre one on your photo ie 1 Monmouth OSD
Bronze - dragon on the ground, no scroll with blades fasten.

Hi,
There’s one on eBay at the moment eBay no.
Cheers,
Dave

41st 12-12-20 11:38 AM

Oi Dave!
How do you know that it’s not a Glam Yeo OSD then? after all the Glam Yeo were wearing them first.
Hwyl,
Kevin

eddie 12-12-20 12:41 PM

Monmouthshire
 
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Originally Posted by 41st (Post 531760)
Oi Dave!
How do you know that it’s not a Glam Yeo OSD then? after all the Glam Yeo were wearing them first.
Hwyl,
Kevin

Hi Kevin,
Not saying it’s not a Glamorgan yeomanry, Bryn Owen book Glamorgan yeomanry has its as being worn c1915.The badge was worn by different Welsh regiment in ww1. I have an example in my collection,as the Monmouthshire regiment also used this type of badge. I have lots of photos of the Monmouthshire regiment wearing this badge from 1908, which I think you have seen at Yate.
Cheers,
Dave

BROOKIES 12-12-20 01:40 PM

C'mon boys.

Easiest way it just have two badges one in Glamorgan collection and one in Mons collection saves any issues. Better in Glam collection than those Mons mind you.

Ta

BROOKIES 12-12-20 02:09 PM

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Dave.

Here you go.

Ta

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eddie 12-12-20 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOKIES (Post 531792)

Hi Jon,
Come up nice, thanks for showing.
Dave

eddie 12-12-20 02:13 PM

Monmouthshire
 
Hi Jon,
Yes not a bad idea one for each collection :):)

BROOKIES 12-12-20 02:35 PM

Dave.

It looks better in the flesh as camera dulls down the shine.

Is someone bidding on that badge as Mons or Glam as think if listed as Glam maybe it would go for more (who wants to collect Mons !!!).

Ta

JerryBB 12-12-20 03:09 PM

I am the current high bidder but who knows now it has been shared here, maybe people weren't looking this close to Xmas but I thought we did not share active ebay items on the forum

41st 12-12-20 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOKIES (Post 531786)
C'mon boys.

Easiest way it just have two badges one in Glamorgan collection and one in Mons collection saves any issues. Better in Glam collection than those Mons mind you.

Ta

Totally agree Jonathan. I’ve told Dave before that he should start collecting Welsh stuff, but he resolutely sticks to the Mons.

eddie 12-12-20 03:52 PM

Monmouthshire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBBOND (Post 531798)
I am the current high bidder but who knows now it has been shared here, maybe people weren't looking this close to Xmas but I thought we did not share active ebay items on the forum

Hi,
Jerry, sorry just trying to help another member will send private mail next time, will edit the post.
Cheers,
Dave

JerryBB 12-12-20 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie (Post 531814)
Hi,
Jerry, sorry just trying to help another member, will edit the post.
Cheers,
Dave

Thanks Dave,

I assume I was deluding myself in thinking no one else on here was watching it, but we all live in hope we are the only ones who spotted it.

Thankfully I already have one in my glamorgans collection...;)

JerryBB 13-12-20 01:26 PM

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Mons (or glams) OSD with matching Mons OSD collars....

Luke H 13-12-20 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBBOND (Post 531818)
Thanks Dave,

I assume I was deluding myself in thinking no one else on here was watching it, but we all live in hope we are the only ones who spotted it.

Thankfully I already have one in my glamorgans collection...;)

Sold for £112.

Philip Heeks will be very happy I imagine.

JerryBB 13-12-20 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke H (Post 531998)
Sold for £112.

Philip Heeks will be very happy I imagine.

Went way past what I bid

Frank Kelley 13-12-20 05:00 PM

Very nice, Jerry, I like dragons!



Quote:

Originally Posted by JBBOND (Post 531967)
Mons (or glams) OSD with matching Mons OSD collars....


eddie 13-12-20 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBBOND (Post 532008)
Went way past what I bid

Hi Jerry,
Went for very good price I bought my just down the road for £20 good job you got one:).
Dave

JerryBB 13-12-20 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie (Post 532022)
Hi Jerry,
Went for very good price I bought my just down the road for £20 good job you got one:).
Dave

Gotta love a bargain Dave.

Mine was not that good a price but a lot less than that on ebay today

JerryBB 13-12-20 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 532010)
Very nice, Jerry, I like dragons!

Thanks Frank, being welsh I love dragons!

41st 13-12-20 08:34 PM

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Here you go Dave,
1 & 2. Unmarked silver plate.
3 & 4. 2nd pattern marked Sterling to rear.
5. Cord boss. I presume this was Great War period 1st Batt’n.
Hwyl,
Kevin

eddie 13-12-20 09:14 PM

Monmouthshire
 
Hi Kevin,

Very nice yes boss I think WW1, have got a photo of the 2VBSWB wearing a boss badge at camp Porthcawl c1905 can’t confirm the dragon add photo’s.
First photo cWW1 second photo early type c1905.
Cheers,
Dave

41st 13-12-20 09:25 PM

Thanks Dave,
The dragon on the boss is nearer your WW1 example. If it’s of any relevance my boss is quite large.
Do you know what the silver dragon was worn on and when?
Hwyl,
Kevin

eddie 13-12-20 09:39 PM

Monmouthshire
 
Hi Kevin,

Only reference I have is the odd photo showing the badge worn early 50s as a beret badge worn by the second battalion .(on the card my badge came with a note from gaunt pattern sept 1952, but I have not seen the pattern card for this badge).
Cheers,
Dave

41st 13-12-20 09:43 PM

👍👍

BROOKIES 14-12-20 04:54 PM

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Dave/Kevin.

A few odds and sods, boss badge on different colour cord, some dragons and some English stuff.

Ta

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JerryBB 14-12-20 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOKIES (Post 532135)
Dave/Kevin.

A few odds and sods, boss badge on different colour cord, some dragons and some English stuff.

Ta

Nice items Jonathan.

What are the small dragons please? I have them as 1st VB the welsh or 1st brecknocks?

41st 14-12-20 09:57 PM

Jonathan,
We’ll have to try and sort out the different colours and sizes for these boss badges between us.
Hwyl,
Kevin

Frank Kelley 30-12-20 08:44 AM

Not many fakes in this thread, I can't help thinking that it is the wrong section of the forum and it is certainly most interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 41st (Post 532167)
Jonathan,
We’ll have to try and sort out the different colours and sizes for these boss badges between us.
Hwyl,
Kevin



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