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jamesmilitaria

10-10-18 02:44 PM

Coldstream Guards - Pith Helmet Badge?

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Good day

Is this a pith helmet badge or similar? It is approx 8.7 cms tall but lugs look rather short.

Also a nice bed plate (is that what they are called?), stamped F Narborough Birmingham on the reverse

Thanks

James

grenadierguardsman

10-10-18 06:57 PM

Im not keen on the Pith Helmet badge, looks too new to me. See what others say though. Nice bed plate though.
Andy

KLR	10-10-18 08:35 PM

Very nice, they both look good to me.
Given that they are probably related PLEASE don't separate them !!

jamesmilitaria

10-10-18 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KLR (Post 456579)

Very nice, they both look good to me.
Given that they are probably related PLEASE don't separate them !!

Came from a guardsman who did national service in the late 50s.

Hot my area of interest so will be selling them.

Alex Rice

11-10-18 05:56 AM

Is the badge not an O/Rs valise badge rather than a pith helmet badge?
Cheers,
Alex

john badge

11-10-18 09:57 AM

The badge is not a valise badge as the fittings are wrong. I have seen pics of Coldstreamers wearing this large badge on sunhelmets but it was my understanding that such badges would usualy be a pagri type with a slider?

Sonofacqms

11-10-18 04:00 PM

Coldstream pagri

A lovely badge, one of the first badges I was given in the early 1950's which I still have.
As far as I'm aware they all had loops, I have never seen one with a slider.

Rob

grenadierguardsman

11-10-18 06:07 PM

Were they wearing these pagri badges in the 1950's ?
Andy

Alan O

11-10-18 06:15 PM

The FSH went out of use in WW2. Post war it was berets and floppy hats.

grenadierguardsman

11-10-18 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 456646)

The FSH went out of use in WW2. Post war it was berets and floppy hats.

Thats what i thought Alan.
Andy

grenadierguardsman

11-10-18 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesmilitaria (Post 456581)

Came from a guardsman who did national service in the late 50s.

Hot my area of interest so will be selling them.

If it did come from a Guardsman what ever era, I'm sure he would have had his details stamped on it.
Andy

Hawthorn

11-10-18 07:44 PM

Andy,

Have to agree with you, if this was the property of an ex Guardsman it would surely be stamped with his Name, Rank and Number unless of course he decided to acquire a souvenir of his Service from the Stores.

Not saying this is anything to go by :D but I personally have never seen a Coldstream Bed Plate of that construction either.

Regards Simon.

Alex Rice

12-10-18 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by john badge (Post 456599)

The older valise badges had screw posts but I thought the newer ones were lugged?

Frank Kelley

12-10-18 07:45 AM

Could you show an older example with screw post please, I have never seen one, you would normally expect four copper lugs, often subsequently removed and replaced by the square, brass, fitting which the leather strap went through.

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Originally Posted by Alex Rice (Post 456674)

The older valise badges had screw posts but I thought the newer ones were lugged?

leigh kitchen

12-10-18 08:17 AM

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Pagri and two valise stars.
The pagri measures about 85 X 68 mm, the valise star measures about 105 X 80mm.

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