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leigh kitchen 31-05-20 10:33 AM

Red over Blue (or Green) Plume - Which Unit?
 
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Does anybody know which unit wore this small horse hair or hog bristle brush please?
It's coloured red over blue or possibly red over green (St Patrick's blue?)
It measures about 14 cm in length including the brass stem and has a brass possibly, gilded, retaining ring.

sapper533 31-05-20 10:52 AM

Hi Leigh
I've checked my lists, on Cavalry, Yeomanry and Regular Rifle Regiments and it doesn't come up, I barely have any info on Volunteers so might be a Volunteer Regt/BN but would love to know when you find out
Regards
Sean

mike_vee 31-05-20 11:14 AM

Although it is decribed as black and red this one for The Rifles Band and Bugles looks a 'possible' candidate. :confused:

https://www.wyedeanstores.com/band-a...orsehair-plume

sapper533 31-05-20 11:23 AM

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Here's one that I have in the same colours but feather as opposed to two tier horse hair. But it remains a mystery to me.
Regards
Sean

leigh kitchen 31-05-20 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_vee (Post 511312)
Although it is decribed as black and red this one for The Rifles Band and Bugles looks a 'possible' candidate. :confused:

https://www.wyedeanstores.com/band-a...orsehair-plume

I've checked the blue, the brush is the same colour all the way through, doesn't appear to have faded from black.

The red and black plumes confuse me, used by so many regular, Volunteer and TF units including KRRC, Greenjackets, The Rifles, red over black for some personnel, black over red for others in the same unit.

leigh kitchen 31-05-20 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sapper533 (Post 511313)
Here's one that I have in the same colours but feather as opposed to two tier horse hair. But it remains a mystery to me.
Regards
Sean

I wondered about London Irish, Liverpool Irish but I think the colours were the other way around, blue over red?

I have this feather hackle labelled when I got it as Liverpool Irish (RA)

sapper533 31-05-20 12:19 PM

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Never considered Liverpool Irish as my plume appears to be old, and just spotted this photo on tinter web which looks like an older one but as you say colours reversed.

And as always we're straying from the subject of your two tier horse feather plume,
cheers
Sean

leigh kitchen 31-05-20 12:27 PM

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I think there's a thread or two covering the Liverpool Irish and their hackles (cue Mr Brydon).

I have this flat one labelled as Tyne RE.

leigh kitchen 31-05-20 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sapper533 (Post 511325)
Never considered Liverpool Irish as my plume appears to be old, and just spotted this photo on tinter web which looks like an older one but as you say colours reversed.

And as always we're straying from the subject of your two tier horse feather plume,
cheers
Sean

According to "Badges of The British Army" by R Hodges (published 2005) The 103rd (Lancashire Artillery Volunteers) Regiment RA (V), formed in 1967 were wearing a blue over red hackle, the Liverpool Irish having changed from a green over red to blue over red hackle when they became RA.

leigh kitchen 31-05-20 01:06 PM

Discussion here of red over blue, red over green, blue over red:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...l+Irish+hackle


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