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Jim Maclean 19-08-14 09:38 PM

Dorsetshire AA
 
Any thoughts on this "gem"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3511482722...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

JerryBB 19-08-14 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Maclean (Post 274160)

I thought that most members here do not like to see active listings shown prior to their ending. I was watching it anyway and I would assume so is anyone else who has an interest in such badges, and certainly going by the price it is at already, then it is probably a good one and quite rare I guess.

slick_mick 19-08-14 11:13 PM

The price blew me away!

I didn't realise that some UK anodised badges go for such a price.

Mick

Silver Tourist 20-08-14 09:01 AM

The price of fame!
 
Good morning.

Good morning.

I am not sure why one would be surprised: I have previously commented on this Forum about Lancs. Fusiliers in A/A on Mr Bosley's website disappearing in minutes for GBP600, and West Yorks. examples have gone at Auction for GBP700+commission & VAT.

So, GBP 475 is chickenfeed.

It goes to show, PT Barnum was right.

And, hallmarked silver is as cheap as chips. Anyone seen a Parachute Regiment going cheap these days?

Enjoy.

S.T.

William 20-08-14 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Tourist (Post 274182)
GBP 475 is chickenfeed.

It goes to show, PT Barnum was right.

S.T.

Nothing like being offensive about other collectors, eh?

Anyone who doesn't collect what you collect or have the same values as you have is an idiot, right?

Some people collect stuff for reasons other than money grubbing.

William

fougasse1940 20-08-14 07:49 PM

A Gaunt badge with a Firmin slider.

Rgds, Thomas.

Mike H 20-08-14 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fougasse1940 (Post 274266)
A Gaunt badge with a Firmin slider.

Rgds, Thomas.

Are you suspisious Thomas ?

fougasse1940 20-08-14 08:01 PM

No I'm certain.

Rgds, Thomas.

Mike H 20-08-14 08:05 PM

Check your pm's Thomas

fougasse1940 20-08-14 08:33 PM

Checked and replied.

Rgds, Thomas.

Mike H 20-08-14 08:43 PM

Got to agree with you.

Jim Maclean 20-08-14 11:25 PM

Judging the clandestine PMs and comments that are in this thread some must agree with me that this is a fantasy piece.

Look at the quality, it really is abysmal. The sphinx looks more like a sloth that's had a shock three days ago. The letter engraving is dire. The back of the badge also looks like it's a shed production.

This is a "never was" badge.

bess55 21-08-14 02:51 AM

A/A DEVONSHIRE
 
The badge in itself appears fine to me - however it has been repaired on the back. The original slider would appear to be missing (originally JR GAUNT LONDON marked no doubt) and repaired using an incorrect FIRMIN slider. The original rich gold anodising on this early badge is in contrast to the much lighter gold tint on the added FIRMIN slider.

dubaiguy 21-08-14 04:21 AM

In some separate email correspondence I was having with Forum member hagwalther (Chris Marsh) prior to the commencement of this thread he'd pointed out the very same thing as Bess & Thomas - that the slider was not original to the badge. I trust Chris doesn't mind me repeating his comment.

Interestingly the badge was originally placed on ebay by Endici at GBP7.99 before it was withdrawn and resubmitted at GBP350. I have no personal issue with that, but an interesting bid run to GBP475 nonetheless.

Cheers
Mark

Major Dundee 21-08-14 09:52 AM

With reference to the last posting.
I have noticed that endici has done this quite a few times over the last few weeks listing items at a low price then after a few days without any bids ends the sale only to then relist it at a higher price which then gets a bid right away and sells for a well higher price.
Could it be he does not know what he has listed????

Mike H 21-08-14 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubaiguy (Post 274316)
In some separate email correspondence I was having with Forum member hagwalther (Chris Marsh) prior to the commencement of this thread he'd pointed out the very same thing as Bess & Thomas - that the slider was not original to the badge. I trust Chris doesn't mind me repeating his comment.

Interestingly the badge was originally placed on ebay by Endici at GBP7.99 before it was withdrawn and resubmitted at GBP350. I have no personal issue with that, but an interesting bid run to GBP475 nonetheless.

Cheers
Mark

He did that because he was getting offers for it

Major Dundee 21-08-14 12:37 PM

Thanks Mike
For the explanation.
Paul

hagwalther 22-08-14 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubaiguy (Post 274316)
In some separate email correspondence I was having with Forum member hagwalther (Chris Marsh) prior to the commencement of this thread he'd pointed out the very same thing as Bess & Thomas - that the slider was not original to the badge. I trust Chris doesn't mind me repeating his comment.

Interestingly the badge was originally placed on ebay by Endici at GBP7.99 before it was withdrawn and resubmitted at GBP350. I have no personal issue with that, but an interesting bid run to GBP475 nonetheless.

Cheers
Mark

Quite right Mark.

The Dorsetshire regiment with the scroll 'DORSETSHIRE' is certainly not a fantasy piece and it is always best to know what one is commenting on before making such statements. A good book may help.

As Mark states. The badge body and slider are from two different pieces which is pretty obvious if one knows anything about the manufacture of A/A badges. Again, a good book may help.

To sell for 475 GBP for an item cobbled together from two different sources, is to me, quite nuts. I would value this item at around 5 GBP.

Regards

Chris

Mike H 22-08-14 05:25 AM

You mean Dorsetshire dont you Chris.

2747andy 22-08-14 05:56 AM

:D

Chris,
I'm sure the good book you refer to is not an Atlas!

Lol

Andy

hagwalther 22-08-14 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike H (Post 274422)
You mean Dorsetshire dont you Chris.

Sorry Mike - Yes.

Regards,

Chris

hagwalther 22-08-14 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2747andy (Post 274429)
:D

Chris,
I'm sure the good book you refer to is not an Atlas!

Lol

Andy

Hi Andy,

Someone told me it was bigger than an Atlas!

Certainly weighs more.

Regards

Chris

2747andy 22-08-14 06:47 AM

:D Yes, it certainly is!

Andy

cavalryman 22-08-14 09:08 PM

A GOOD BOOK
 
chris, it's not a good book at all! it's so much more than that, an excellent publication with outstanding photography and backed by so much factual information. definitely the serious anodised badge collectors bible, I learned so much from reading this book. especially like the chapters on lugs and sliders. regards john

hagwalther 23-08-14 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavalryman (Post 274525)
chris, it's not a good book at all! it's so much more than that, an excellent publication with outstanding photography and backed by so much factual information. definitely the serious anodised badge collectors bible, I learned so much from reading this book. especially like the chapters on lugs and sliders. regards john

Thanks John,

Your comment is much appreciated.

Regards

Chris

chris cunniffe 23-08-14 10:31 AM

Dorsetshire
 
Hi I went for this badge out of a desire to own one my fault for not doing my research or asking the seller has admitted his mistake in not seeing the repair and agreed that it was a no sale chris

Mike H 23-08-14 10:35 AM

Good on you Chris.

William 25-08-14 11:26 AM

So I wonder where is the badge now?

ANGLE IRON 25-08-14 11:41 AM

Are both the Dorset and Dorsetshire anodised of similar rarity or is the Dorsetshire the very scarce one? Kevin

Mike H 25-08-14 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANGLE IRON (Post 274855)
Are both the Dorset and Dorsetshire anodised of similar rarity or is the Dorsetshire the very scarce one? Kevin

The Dorsetshire is the scarce one Kevin.
Although it appears that there are both void and non void versions of the Dorsetshire.

ANGLE IRON 25-08-14 11:51 AM

Cheers , I picked a Dorset one up a few years back before the Anodised prices began to rise, Kevin

William 25-08-14 12:00 PM

Not sure if there are any decent pics showing an un-voided AA badge with Dorsetshire scroll.

Whether voided or not, an original, AA Dorsetshire Regiment cap-badge, with Dorsetshire scroll, in good condition is an ȕber-rarity, with less than a handful of known examples.

Unlike Dorsetshire scrolled badges, the Dorsetshire Regiment badge with Dorset scroll is a common badge.

AA Devonshire Regiment badge can often be picked up quite easily for probably around £20.

Cheers

William

Mike H 25-08-14 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANGLE IRON (Post 274858)
Cheers , I picked a Dorset one up a few years back before the Anodised prices began to rise, Kevin

Any anodised is now worth having.

Mike H 25-08-14 12:07 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here you go William. Both versions.

Paddy 25-08-14 12:50 PM

2 Attachment(s)
William

Attached below are pictures of my unvoided Dorsetshire badge.

Mike - as the picture you attached of the voided version is a bit small, how sure are you of the authenticity of that badge? Just curious, no aspersions being cast.

Paddy

Mike H 25-08-14 01:38 PM

A 100% certain Paddy,ithats why i made the statement about the two versions.it came from a friends collection.have another image ,which shows the badge. But its not mine to post,im sure he'll post it .

Paddy 25-08-14 01:54 PM

Mike

Many thanks, I won't hold my breath on being able to obtain one at a reasonable price

Paddy

Mike H 25-08-14 02:13 PM

Paddy ,you seem to be going blue. Are you having trouble breathing ?

A fellow member bought one at War and Peace a few weeks ago.

My Dorsetshire image came from the same person that sold me the large Liverpool UOTC badge years ago. I never realised that there was two versions of the Dorsetshire until I saw the ebay one.I also have an image of what appears to be an unfinished all siver one(non voided).


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