Irish Guards Silver Officers Cap Badge
 

I have recently picked up this Irish Guards cap badge and was informed it was a Second World War strike for an officer serving under Vandeleur. No specific name given. Any help on distinguishing the authenticity of this badge and whether I am wrong in my labeling of it as an officers badge would be much appreciated thank you.
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It is a genuine officer's badge, but impossible to date as they have not changed for over one hundred years. It could very well be a WW2 badge as the quality of the more recent examples is generally not as good. As they say, buy the badge, not the story.

CB

Looking at the lugs, I believe it is an older example, but pre-1970s, I think because they are nice long and heavy lugs. As mentioned, very difficult to date them, so could be any date really.
Cheers,
Alex

I think it is an original officers star with some age to it, did the officer concerned, serve under John or Giles?

I believe the officer concerned served alongside Giles but under John in the Irish Guards order of battle if that makes sense. However I may be wrong

Thank you CB and Alex for your knowledge and expertise

Nice
 

Nice badge if the back story can be proved that’s great if not I’d be inclined to ignore it I’d say this joining of dots so to speak is worse than ever now. Great if it’s true otherwise it could be completely made up.

The actual badge remains what it is, without any provenance, it is still an original star.

Update on provenence
 

I have found out that this badge was purchased as part of a lot of Vandeleurs personal headdress being his beret and service dress cap with two loose badges this being one of them. It was bought from a Bosley’s auction some 20 years ago and I have contacted Bosley’s to get some provenence and am awaiting a reply.

Good luck, I hope you get some positive feedback!

The "story" can be part of the provenance.

Emphasis on part of.

They certainly have changed, very considerably, in particular, over the last fifty years, since the rot set in.

Provenence Update
 

Bad news I’m afraid. The records no longer exist from the Bosley’s auction and the buyer no longer has any receipt. So the only chance I have is if I went through every Bosley’s auction catalogue since 1990 to find a listing that correlates to the story I have been told by the buyer. I shall post again if I find anything but if anyone finds a listing from Bosley’s such as the one described in a previous reply please don’t hesitate to reply.

Sadly. without any tangible provenance, it really does not matter, but, you still have an original and not unattractive star.