Sas insignia
 

May I please have opinions on these 3 SAS related insignia.

Original or fake?
WW2 or post-war?

Beret insignia

I like the wing, very nice!

wing looks good, beret badges not so

Is the wing the so called 1944 pattern?

Indeed the beret badges are weird, although one clearly has some age to it.

that’s called artificial ageing
The two beret badges are fakes
SC

Thank you for the comments

Hello, How do they artificially age it?

Yes the wing is WW2 era.

Paul

Hello Trog,

They can put it through a washing machine, rub it on a rough surface to pull a few threads, stain it with tea, I think the processes are endless for adding an aged, 'salty', used look to cloth items.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could replicate mothing by applying a controlled flame to areas of the cloth.

Of course it helps if you put a couple of loose threads in prior to going through the processes, looks like its been removed from a uniform then.

Fortunately the forum cloth specialists can usually identify the fakes and forgeries.

Keith

Yes, most people do usually refer to it, they were made here, from an ordnance sealed pattern, there is less variation, unlike the earlier examples that were far more of a cottage industry being produced on campaign.
I like them very much, the only other thing I would add would be not to pay too much, a huge number were made, they are not rare.

Hello Keith

Good to know. I am new to all this, so need to know what to watch out for.

Thanks and kind regards

Trog22

The beret badges are fakes. The wing is the ww2 1944 pattern . The wings have also been worn after the war by 21stSAS.

Cheers
JB

From the same source another SAS wing but I think this one is post war or a copy? The front looks good but the back is different

Above the original posted earlier
Below the new one

Looks correct , post war 1960/70s
Cheers
Steve