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GriffMJ 25-04-13 08:29 AM

IY Slouch Hat & Badge (PAOLIY)
 
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Hi All

Mooching around the Officers Mess last night and found this Imperial Yeomanry Slouch hat that belonged to one of our Officers in the 7thSqn/4thBtn IY..... Lt. Martin.

I think the badge is white metal? ...... but there is so much crud on it that its impossible to tell....... probably brass...opinions welcome :) Does anyone have this badge ..... a cleaner version?

Rockape 25-04-13 09:16 AM

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Hi Griff,

Thanks for showing this. The badge is a little different to the general IY badge worn on the rosette. Lt. Martin's badge has E-W loops and the scrolls are flatter. Photos of my rosette badge below for comparison.

Garry

GriffMJ 25-04-13 09:29 AM

Hi Gar

I also have an example of the IY Rosette & POWs.... I also have an IY collar POWs ..... the one shown on the Slouch hat is different again.... but all are approximatley the same size at 2.5cm x 2.5cm :)

The Slouch hat POWs has the "FE Woodward" look about it?

Rockape 25-04-13 09:47 AM

Can you point me in the right direction here Griff? ;) Do you mean the construction, the feather and scroll layout or the fittings? Show some images of what you mean.

GriffMJ 25-04-13 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockape (Post 210582)
Can you point me in the right direction here Griff? ;) Do you mean the construction, the feather and scroll layout or the fittings? Show some images of what you mean.

Just looking at the Fleur-de-lys on the coronet (slouch hat POWs).... thats all.... If I was to guess a maker thats the one I would put forward just because of the crude detail (I dont know if they were making badges in 1900?).

Below ....the Bim. collar and the Rosette brass POWs..... the head shot is of an PAOLIY Corporal (IY Veteran, SA ribbon) with what look like the POWs collars on his Blues, taken at Garendon Park Camp 1901. Note the Warwickshire Trumpeter in the group photo.

Your Rosette POWs looks like its the same maker as my Bim. Collar?

GriffMJ 25-04-13 11:32 AM

Here is Lt. W F Martin wearing the slouch hat shown above :)

http://www.paoyeomanry.co.uk/Yeomanr...rtinFW1900.jpg

GriffMJ 24-05-13 11:57 AM

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Rare images of the second Leics. Yeo. contingent to South Africa..... 65th (Leics Yeo) Squadron men, 17th Btn IY, and also the following from 11991 Tpr. Sharrad Gilbert on the 65th's Cap Badge:-

"Each man bore in his hat a spray of the Lilly of the Valley -the emblem of Leicester - presented to him by the Mayoress of the City. The badge worn by the Squadron was brass numerals 6 and 5 on a blue and cerise rosette."

So blue being the outer colour on the rosette. The Lilly of the Valley being the Leicester emblem is a reference to the Coat Of Arms of the City, this being the Arms of De Montfort .... a Cinquefoil, ermine on a Gules field. The white flower of the Lilly is a white Cinquefoil.

* 12006 Tpr. C H Stevenson (left), died of enteric fever on July 20th 1901 in England.
* The photo (middle) is a very rare image of the 65th in South Africa entering BEIRA.
* The image (right) is a spray of Lilly of the Valley


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