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Jack8 20-07-14 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike H (Post 270510)
From evidence it appears that the only marked versions were made by Dowler. No other marked examples have been identified.

I have one marked H.W. Timings Ltd, B'Ham

Cheers,

Jack

Mike H 21-07-14 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack8 (Post 270671)
I have one marked H.W. Timings Ltd, B'Ham

Cheers,

Jack

Can you post an image please.

Jack8 21-07-14 05:04 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Here you go.

Mike H 21-07-14 06:04 PM

Thanks for that,thats the first one ive seen that isn't blank or a Dowler one

Jack8 21-07-14 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=Mike H;270750]Thanks for that,thats the first one ive seen that isn't blank or a Dowler one.

Has anyone else here seen one, I picked mine up quite a few years ago with a Welsh Regiment one also by Timings?

Mike H 21-07-14 08:25 PM

Welsh regt with Timings slider is correct.

Jack8 21-07-14 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike H (Post 270779)
Welsh regt with Timings slider is correct.

Should I be doubting my SWB badge, are there fake SWB Timings marked ones around?

Mike H 21-07-14 09:22 PM

I dont know Jack. Its not one ive come across before.

Jack8 21-07-14 09:36 PM

I never really thought about it before now, I welcome some more opinion on this badge. I have just looked through the Timings thread on here and it was not mentioned.

Cheers,
Jack

Mike H 21-07-14 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack8 (Post 270803)
I never really thought about it before now, I welcome some more opinion on this badge. I have just looked through the Timings thread on here and it was not mentioned.

Cheers,
Jack

Doesnt mean its not a genuine item. There is no definative list to which badges exist let alone who they were made by. Most of what is known is through collectors exchanging info and books etc.

Jack8 21-07-14 11:50 PM

Thanks for your replies Mike. Does anyone else have any comments regarding this badge/maker combination?

Cheers,
Jack

hagwalther 22-07-14 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack8 (Post 270790)
Should I be doubting my SWB badge, are there fake SWB Timings marked ones around?

Hi Jack,

There is a fake Timings mark about but the one shown on your badge is good - more info on page 48 of Anodised Alunminium: The 'No Bull' Cap Badge of the British Army.

The other thing to consider is the slider - is this slider attributed to those used by Timings? Always difficult to tell from images but your badge appears to have one that looks like the item shown on page 67 of same book being the 5.1 Tombstone piece.

Regards

Chris

Jack8 22-07-14 10:26 AM

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your input. It's good to know that you think that the mark is a genuine Timings mark.

As for the slider I do not have a copy of your book to compare it to the 5.1 Tombstone one on page 67 that you mention.

Is the 5.1 Tombstone slider regarded as a typical Timings one or not?

Regards,
Jack

hagwalther 22-07-14 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack8 (Post 270853)
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your input. It's good to know that you think that the mark is a genuine Timings mark.

As for the slider I do not have a copy of your book to compare it to the 5.1 Tombstone one on page 67 that you mention.

Is the 5.1 Tombstone slider regarded as a typical Timings one or not?

Regards,
Jack

Hi Jack,

I looked at all 14 makers of A/A cap badges and their sliders and identified three that were used with Timings badges. I allocated the number 5 to the Timings company and then an iterativer number for the sliders used being:

5.1: Tombstone
5.2: Asymmetrical
5.3: Shark Head

see page 67.

Some companies had more designs of sliders such as Gaunt (maker no. 6) who used 10 different slider designs. All very nerdy but very useful if one wanted to understand the relationships between certain companies and also to identify those responsible for manufacturing dodgy examples.

If you really want to know about A/A cap badges then Anodised Aluminium: The 'No Bull' Cap Badge of the British Army should answer your questions.

Regards

Chris

Jack8 22-07-14 09:38 PM

Hi Chris,

Thank you for your reply. So the mark is good, although difficult to tell from images the slider appears to be one used with Timings badges.

There appears to be a fair chance that this badge is 100% correct, if so I would think it could be a scarce example.

My interest in badges is mainly special forces these days, but I do have an eclectic mix collected over many years which includes approximately fifty A/A badges.

Cheers,
Jack


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