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Mike 21-08-10 11:43 AM

60 WW1 Badges + Carnatic Ava Mysore
 
A Few days ago I got a phone call offering a frame of badges. Interestingly the seller stated that these had been collected by his father (as a boy) during WW1 from soldiers being sent from the battlefields to the Isle of Wight for convalesce. The boy would ask the soldiers sitting along the promenade if he could have their badges - some said no - they would be in trouble with their NCO's; others willingly gave him the badge.

With that story came later by email this photo of the 60 badges:



http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/ima...collection.jpg

much of it is run of the mill stuff, but now that they are with me, on close inspection everything looks good, thus reinforcing the story.

In that lot is the hallmarked badge shown below. Thought I could go straight to Cox and ID this one, but I've draw a blank - dose anyone recognise it?


http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/images2/carnatic_2.jpg


the date letter is Z (Birmingham) but cannot make out which 'z' it is... the likely options are 1899, 1924, 1949

Mike 21-08-10 11:46 AM

Also the rising sun badge it Tiptaft marked is that good?

Alan O 21-08-10 12:10 PM

Could you show the back of the manchesters please?

orasot 21-08-10 12:14 PM

Hi Mike,
Does the Aussie one have Tiptaft on a slider plus the badge itself ? If so, these can sell for between £80 - £110, I have seen them sell for both figures !!! Very nice find by the way, lovely stuff. All the best,
Wilf.

Mike 21-08-10 12:21 PM

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/ima...nchester_2.jpg


and the eddy's horse:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/images2/edwards_2.jpg

Mike 21-08-10 12:22 PM

The RIR is lacking voiding, no strengthener, will add a pic in a mo:

Mike 21-08-10 12:35 PM

I thought this was lacking voiding under the crown but on close inspection it is there, but an oval piece of metal has been brazed over it:


http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/images2/rir.jpg

orasot 21-08-10 12:36 PM

Eddy's horse, spiked crown sold in Bosleys 20th jan 10 sale for £44, lot 229.
Wilf.

Mike 21-08-10 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orasot (Post 79392)
Hi Mike,
Does the Aussie one have Tiptaft on a slider plus the badge itself ? If so, these can sell for between £80 - £110, I have seen them sell for both figures !!! Very nice find by the way, lovely stuff. All the best,
Wilf.


it's on the badge itself:

(my camera's not done this one any favours, it a very nice piece in the hand)

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/images2/sun_2.jpg

Empire collector 21-08-10 12:55 PM

7th Madras Infantry
 
Although I cannot find a picture of the badge with the 7 & Carnatic Ava Mysore wording: I am pretty sure it's the badge of:

7th Madras Infantry.

The unit was called this between 1885 to 1903, they then became the 67th Punjabis.
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/force...thpunjabis.htm

Here are the 67th Punjabis battle honours of Carnatic Ava & Mysore carried over from the 7th Madras Infantry. Plus the badge has a qvc type crown. The spike is no doubt for attachment to the turban.

So an old & very interesting badge worn by someone who couldn't forget his old battalion, maybe. A lot of Indian troops in the Great War were hospitalised in Brighton. Defineately not run of the mill.

Alan.

Mike 21-08-10 12:59 PM

Irish Dragoons osd seen better days, finish worn and broached - would have to have been worn in the field like that to go with the story:


http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/ima...dragoons_2.jpg

Alan O 21-08-10 12:59 PM

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...hester&page=12

That Manchesters makes me a whole lot happier about my one being a genuine example. That has made my day.

engr9266 21-08-10 01:14 PM

the date letter is Z (Birmingham) but cannot make out which 'z' it is... the likely options are 1899, 1924, 1949
If it was collected during WW1 the hall mark must be 1899??:confused:

Mike 21-08-10 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by engr9266 (Post 79408)
the date letter is Z (Birmingham) but cannot make out which 'z' it is... the likely options are 1899, 1924, 1949
If it was collected during WW1 the hall mark must be 1899??:confused:


agreed Jerry, if you accept the story that is, we must all be doubting thomas's in this game 'till the evidence proves otherwise. But I must say I've got a good feeling about this lot.

Mike 21-08-10 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empire collector (Post 79404)
Although I cannot find a picture of the badge with the 7 & Carnatic Ava Mysore wording: I am pretty sure it's the badge of:

7th Madras Infantry.

The unit was called this between 1885 to 1903, they then became the 67th Punjabis.
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/force...thpunjabis.htm

Here are the 67th Punjabis battle honours of Carnatic Ava & Mysore carried over from the 7th Madras Infantry. Plus the badge has a qvc type crown. The spike is no doubt for attachment to the turban.

So an old & very interesting badge worn by someone who couldn't forget his old battalion, maybe. A lot of Indian troops in the Great War were hospitalised in Brighton. Defineately not run of the mill.

Alan.


Many thanks for that Alan, it's given me something to go on.


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