British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum (https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/index.php)
-   Cavalry, Yeomanry, Tank/RAC Badges (https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   4/7th Royal Dragoon Guards titles - help please (https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77906)

NORMANDIE18 22-03-20 05:21 PM

4/7th Royal Dragoon Guards titles - help please
 
Hi,
4/7th Royal Dragoon was granted "Royal" in 1936 but I find no evidence that "4/7RDG" brass titles were worn during WW2.
Have you ever encountered the smallest title ?
Thanks
Normandie18
https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=179365

3dg 22-03-20 08:01 PM

I have a pair of these, worn by Officers on shirts in short sleeve order, I was told that by an ex4th/7th Officer.
Hope this helps, are yours spike and clutch fitting?

Chris

NORMANDIE18 22-03-20 09:12 PM

Thanks for your input, my smallest title have lugs, no spike and clutch.
Regards
Normandie18

yorkstone 22-03-20 10:50 PM

Small titles were worn by officers during my time in the regiment 1982-1985 on shirts and Regimental coloured Jumpers certainly,
Regards
Stephen

NORMANDIE18 23-03-20 11:50 AM

Thanks Stephen for this piece of information. from what I see "4/7RDG" titles were only worn post war. During and before WW2 I think that "4/7DG" titles were worn.
Regards
Normandie18

yorkstone 23-03-20 02:08 PM

5 Attachment(s)
Officers shoulder title In my collection for comparison currently working on this frame as I have a number of items to add

Regards

Stephen

NORMANDIE18 23-03-20 09:08 PM

Thanks for sharing this Stephen !
Regards
Normandie18

Mike H 24-03-20 08:09 PM

I thought I'd mention this here. Discussed previously ,an example of the arm badge in anodised with a Dowler slider fitted for sale on Deadspartan. A rare badge.

yorkstone 05-04-20 06:42 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Normandie
I have found this image in the Regimental History November Dated 1944 it appears to show shoulder titles being worn on the Battle Dress as I would have expected hope this is helpful.

Regards

Stephen

NORMANDIE18 05-04-20 08:29 PM

Hi Stephen,
Thank you very much for this very interesting picture. Officers seem to have collar badges on berets ? Unfortunately, we can not see if the shoulder title is "4/7DG" or 4/7RDG"
Thanks again
Normandie18

yorkstone 05-04-20 10:17 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Normandie
The regiment was re designated 4th/7th Royal Rangoon Guards in 1936 there is no way that they would not be wearing the prestigious title of Royal immediately it was bestowed.
It was and is a wealthy regiment and new insignia would have been provided from the off so to speak

Information from R A Westlakes Book on metal Shoulder titles isbn o 7232 2675 X
Published 1980

Regards

Stephen

NORMANDIE18 06-04-20 11:17 AM

Thanks again Stephen for your input, very much appreciated.
But even if the 4/7th Dragoon Guards was granted "Royal" in 1936, the slip on shoulder title introduced from 1939/1940 still does not contain the "R" for Royal. You can simply read "4/7DG".
Regards
Normandie18

yorkstone 06-04-20 06:51 PM

Hi Normandie
do you have an image of Slide on title i would like to see one and obviously would like one to add to my collection , the officer I have indicated is clearly wearing a Brass title in the 1944 image sadly it is not possible to read.

when I get chance to re visit the museum I will ask the curator sadly may be some time
Kind regards

Stephen

NORMANDIE18 06-04-20 07:26 PM

Hi Stephen, sorry I haven’t got the «4/7DG» slip on shoulder title, but one is shown in the excellent books "Badges on battle dress" by Jon Mills.
Regards
Normandie18

yorkstone 07-04-20 10:33 PM

Found image of one hear
http://www.gnmilitaria.co.uk/viewpho...h=21898&phqu=2

Geoff Newman Militaria sadly sold befor I saw the image very interesting

Regards

Stephen


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:33 PM.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.