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Brigade Piron 14-06-11 05:40 PM

Another Commonwealth badge...
 
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSCF1578.jpg

QC badge.

Is there a difference between the different commonwealth contingent' badges?

BP

Mike Jackson 14-06-11 06:04 PM

1st Commonwealth Division
 
1st Commonwealth Division was formed on 15 Jul 51. Its main components on formation were 25 Canadian Infantry Brigade, 28 British Commonwealth Infantry Brigade (which included 3 RAR) and 29 British Infantry Brigade. Divisional Troops included British, Canadian, New Zealand and Indian units. Apart from the proliferation of "bazaar"-made items from Korea and Japan, the standard printed (later silk embroidered) signs were the first and second patterns of the Tudor Crown variant. First pattern had the word COMMONWEALTH on a white panel. The second pattern did not. In 1952 the crown changed to the St Edward's Crown.
On 15 Apr 56 1st Commonwealth Division was redesignated Commonwealth Contingent Korea.
As far as I know the official formation sign was the UK made item - in its variants. I don't think that non-British troops wore versions of the sign made in, for example, Canada or Australia. But I'll be delighted to be proved wrong!

edstorey 15-06-11 12:34 AM

1st Commonwealth Division Patches
 
Here are two images of the patch still sewn to the original armlets.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...sard-front.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...orea-front.jpg

Bill A 15-06-11 12:59 AM

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25 Canadian Infantry Brigade wore the red shield patch shown below on the right arm and the Commonwealth Division patch on the left.
Mike, you may be able to confirm or correct me, but I believe the l of c and divisional troops wore the British Forces Commonwealth patch?

Mike Jackson 15-06-11 05:37 AM

1st Commonwealth Division
 
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Originally Posted by Bill A (Post 117261)
25 Canadian Infantry Brigade wore the red shield patch shown below on the right arm and the Commonwealth Division patch on the left.
Mike, you may be able to confirm or correct me, but I believe the l of c and divisional troops wore the British Forces Commonwealth patch?

Bill,
I'll see what I can find out, but I have two brassards (both worn by the same officer) one of which has the Divisional sign with KC and the second with QC - both below an EonF ROYAL ARTILLERY title. KC and the other QC. The owner served in 12 (Minden) Bty, 20 Fd Regt RA (ie Div Troops).

Mike Jackson 15-06-11 08:06 AM

1st Commonwealth Division
 
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A variety of brassards. The RTR example was worn by an officer in 5 RTR. The example with the shamrock was possibly worn by 1 RUR. The first British units to deploy to Korea were drawn from 40 Infantry Division - which was based in Hong Kong, and wore its sign in Korea, hence the inclusion of this brassard. History does not relate what the US Army thought of having allies who wore a "yellow chicken" on their shoulders!
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Mike Jackson 15-06-11 10:43 AM

1 Commonwealth Division
 
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Finally - for now - a few variants including the rare, printed first pattern - COMMONWEALTH on white backing and a locally produced version, probably for wear on Best BD on demob leave.
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grey_green_acorn 15-06-11 12:24 PM

Dorset Regiment - Korea
 
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Here is a QC version on a brassard to the Dorset Regiment - as displayed in the Regimental Museum in Dorchester

edstorey 16-06-11 02:20 AM

Korea - Canadian Red UN Shield
 
Here is the mate to the armlet with the Commonwealth patch.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ea-front-1.jpg

NEMO 16-06-11 04:37 PM

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regards ,Michael

Brigade Piron 16-06-11 06:30 PM

Well, since we're all posting pictures, I might as well put my other one up too:

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSCF1291.jpg

Great patches everyone! Those brassards are amazing! Where did you get them? I've never seen any for sale.

Keep 'em comming!

BP

Mike Jackson 16-06-11 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brigade Piron (Post 117449)
Well, since we're all posting pictures, I might as well put my other one up too:

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSCF1291.jpg

Great patches everyone! Those brassards are amazing! Where did you get them? I've never seen any for sale.

Keep 'em comming!

BP

Easy really. Just start collecting in 1958!
Mike

Brigade Piron 18-06-11 07:03 AM

I feel I've rather missed the boat :(

Incidentally, why does the brassard show the 40th div patch when surely the division only lasted a few weeks in Korea? Did other troops outside Korea wear brassards?

Thanks

Mike Jackson 18-06-11 08:06 AM

40 Inf Div
 
Originally a First World War formation, 40 Inf Div was re-formed in Hong Kong in 1949. Two of its battalions - 1 Middlesex and 1 A&SH together with a "slice" of the Divisional Troops were detached from the 27 Inf Bde of the 40th Inf Div and sent to Korea in August 1950 where they formed the basis (with 32 Aust Inf Bn) of what became known as 27 British Commonwealth Brigade. The British element of 27 British Commonwealth Brigade will probably have continued to wear the bantam cock sign until the formation of 1st Commonwealth Division in July 1951 (and the introduction of its formation sign). Similarly the British 29 Inf Bde which was mobilised in UK in Sep 50 (1 RNF, 1 Gloucesters, 1 RUR) for service in Korea was still wearing the brigade sign (a white ring on a black square) while serving in Korea in late 1950/early 1951.
To my knowledge, brassards have been worn frequently but intermittently in the British Army for the 1940s to 2000s. They provide an easy solution to the problem of wearing signs on forms of dress that are regularly laundered as well as on items of clothing on loan from a central store - such as cold weather parkas etc. But the practice was most widespread in Korea. Members will probably have seen scores of different examples over the years. I wore one - semi officially - bearing the RMA SANDHURST shoulder title and the US 7th Army patch when attached to the US 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment in Germany in 1962.

grey_green_acorn 18-06-11 09:31 AM

My album shows a selection of more "modern" brassards dating from the 1990s and worn mainly during the first Gulf conflict and deployments in Bosnia under United Nations command. The modern equivalent is rank badges worn on slides on the chest epaulette and formation badges velcro backed for attachment to (and easy removal from) clothing and body armour.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...hp?albumid=491

Tim


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