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grenadierguardsman 06-04-20 03:50 PM

Grenadier Guards SD
 
Chaps on eBay there is a 1920's-30's ( allegedly ) battle dress top for sale. Ive no idea about these and would like the opinion of someone that does, with reference this item. I would be interested in it if it were original.
Many thanks
Andy

manchesters 06-04-20 03:58 PM

It wasnt introduced until 1939???

Hawthorn 06-04-20 04:32 PM

Can you show the Ebay listing Andy, or give us the item number please,

Simon

mike_vee 06-04-20 04:36 PM

This one ??

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Post-Ww1-....c100008.m2219

Hawthorn 06-04-20 04:44 PM

if it is I would want to see a close up of the interior label which appears to be hanging down.

Simon.

grenadierguardsman 06-04-20 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_vee (Post 505419)

Thanks for that Mike.
Andy

grenadierguardsman 06-04-20 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchesters (Post 505416)
It wasnt introduced until 1939???

I don't understand Simon, 1902 pattern i believe.
Andy

Frank Kelley 06-04-20 06:23 PM

I would think your use of the phase "battle dress" in the opening post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman (Post 505440)
I don't understand Simon, 1902 pattern i believe.
Andy


magpie 06-04-20 06:24 PM

You described it as battle dress.

manchesters 06-04-20 06:33 PM

Yes, that has caused the confusion.

regards

RSM 06-04-20 06:42 PM

Andy,

I think this is a good original tunic, 1907 pattern ( I think the 1902 had detachable shoulder straps? The IWM website has some nice examples to compare). Whether the buttons and shoulder titles are original to the tunic is a moot point. Personally I like to handle such items if possible, check to see if buttons have been stitched on with modern thread etc, but as said, the tunic itself has the look of an original: dense woollen material, neat machine stitching (particularly the chain stitch around the button holes), wear in the right places, nicely made.

The repro tunics of this pattern made for WW1 reenactors never look 'quite right' - the colours are wrong and the (invariably cheap/thin) cloth material used in construction never matches the quality of the real things. I agree with Hawthorn - that makers label inside will help - if of course it's not faded beyond comprehension. I would contact the seller and ask for more detailed photos and whatever info he is prepared to share about it. Looking at his other offerings he seems to have an interest in Guards related items so you may well find a kindred spirit in him and hopefully a satisfactory purchase.

Good luck,

Richard.

grenadierguardsman 06-04-20 07:01 PM

Thanks Richard. Sorry chaps i didn't use the correct wording, my fault entirely. Thanks for the replies though, i might just leave it.
Andy

wardog 06-04-20 10:45 PM

I think its a 1921 pattern SD Jacket. Regards, Paul.

grenadierguardsman 07-04-20 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wardog (Post 505486)
I think its a 1921 pattern SD Jacket. Regards, Paul.

Thanks Paul, i don't believe it was originally Badges to the Grenadier Guards. The holes on the epaulettes don't look right.
Andy


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