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3dg 14-12-19 08:13 PM

Thank you Alan O.
I'm getting it Monday fingers crossed.
I'll send some better pictures.

Chris

Luke H 15-12-19 11:52 PM

Sorry bit late to this one. Good badge. A later example in my opinion but a screaming bargain for a tenner.

3dg 17-12-19 11:10 AM

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Here it is, £10, he wasn't in yesterday, so I've just got it.
A few more pictures, what do you good people think please?
Chris

Jack8 17-12-19 11:50 AM

Good buy for a tenner.

Jack.

3dg 17-12-19 02:21 PM

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A couple more shots, a bit of pitting on the Dien scroll?
It's quite weighty, and not flimsy.
Also, what era is this badge please? If it's an original that is.
Cheers

Chris

Alan O 17-12-19 07:12 PM

I would still give you £10 for it any day of the week.

During WW2 they wore the RA grenade badge with regtl collars.

https://wartimememoriesproject.com/w...php?uid=245290

3dg 17-12-19 09:40 PM

Thank you AlanO for the info, and I appreciate your comments on its originality.
What era do you think this badge is from please?
I would like to have some more opinions on the badge please, that would be appreciated
I think I'm pleased with it, it feels ok if that makes sense?
Cheers

Chris

Alan O 18-12-19 09:56 AM

If pressed I would say post WW2. The Pembroke Yeomanry wore the bi-metal badge with the white metal scroll in WW1. They then wore RA after conversion and in WW2. In the 1950's 102 Regt RA readopted the Yeo badge and a version was made in a/a but his time with a gold a/a scroll.

The large number of copy bagdes tend to have a brass scroll.

3dg 18-12-19 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 495075)
If pressed I would say post WW2. The Pembroke Yeomanry wore the bi-metal badge with the white metal scroll in WW1. They then wore RA after conversion and in WW2. In the 1950's 102 Regt RA readopted the Yeo badge and a version was made in a/a but his time with a gold a/a scroll.

The large number of copy bagdes tend to have a brass scroll.

So 102 Regt would have probably worn this before the anodised one, if it's post WW2?
Cheers again Alan O for the reply.

Chris

Frank Kelley 21-12-19 06:53 PM

I think the scroll looks quite good.

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Originally Posted by 3dg (Post 494637)
The scroll looks wonky?


3dg 21-12-19 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 495372)
I think the scroll looks quite good.

Thank you for your response,
The scroll is not quite straight and centre.
But I'm chuffed to bits with the badge, I trust the people who say it's a goodun, it has a good feel to it if you know what I mean.
Cheers

Chris

Rockape 22-12-19 06:59 AM

It's annoying I don't have one to compare. I would need to have it in the hand to give it the thumbs up. My advice is to keep it as genuine until contrary evidence appears.

3dg 22-12-19 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockape (Post 495409)
It's annoying I don't have one to compare. I would need to have it in the hand to give it the thumbs up. My advice is to keep it as genuine until contrary evidence appears.

Thank you Rockape.
That makes all the difference, and what makes it difficult, that people can't handle the badge, it feels good to me, but I'd like someone else to handle it, but the only way I could do that is to send it to one of you guys and then you send it back, do you think that's worth doing?

Chris

Luke H 22-12-19 12:25 PM

The badge is genuine. A PY of that type is pictured in the 1969 edition of F.Wilkinsons ‘Badges of the British Army 1820-1960’ i.e. before the fake flood in the 1970s. Indeed I’m yet to find a spurious cap badge pictured in that edition, most appear to be from a circa WW1 collection.

This type has not been restruck from the original die, quite simply they’re scarce and not seen in the volumes associated with restrikes, none of the usual eBay suspects sell this sort and it’s not in the MM catalogue. Add to that the age, patina, ok slider, quality of strike and metal etc. that’s apparent on your badge, I don’t see anything to cause any doubt.

Keith Hook tells me he has identified 14 OR PY cap badge variations of which this is one and one he has had for a considerable amount of time.

Please by all means send it to me as this is a variation I’d like ;)

3dg 22-12-19 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke H (Post 495433)
The badge is genuine. A PY of that type is pictured in the 1969 edition of F.Wilkinsons ‘Badges of the British Army 1820-1960’ i.e. before the fake flood in the 1970s. Indeed I’m yet to find a spurious cap badge pictured in that edition, most appear to be from a circa WW1 collection.

This type has not been restruck from the original die, quite simply they’re scarce and not seen in the volumes associated with restrikes, none of the usual eBay suspects sell this sort and it’s not in the MM catalogue. Add to that the age, patina, ok slider, quality of strike and metal etc. that’s apparent on your badge, I don’t see anything to cause any doubt.

Keith Hook tells me he has identified 14 OR PY cap badge variations of which this is one and one he has had for a considerable amount of time.

Please by all means send it to me as this is a variation I’d like ;)

Thank you Luke H
I've just dug out my Wilkinson book and there it is!!
I've been driving past the antiques shop for years, I just popped in and there was a tray with 2 DCLI with broken sliders, one with slider, a Welsh Regt and this PY!
£10!!
Interestingly the Wilkinson book has the 1984/85 price guide, it's £12.
A badge I've been after for a while but I've been put off by the fakes minefield!
Thank you all who have contributed to this thread, your time and help is appreciated.

Chris


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