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Bill A 28-12-08 03:14 PM

Larry, If I am reading Stewart's Concise Lineages of the Canadian Army 1855 - Date correctly, the 13th Scottish Light Dragoons were not disbanded until 1936. That would make the badge also part of the 20-36 period.

Bill A 28-12-08 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by servicepub (Post 29439)
So - who's going to write the 1920-1950 badge book? I know a publisher who would be interested.

Clive, What kind of format would the publisher be thinking about?

Phillip Herring 28-12-08 03:38 PM

Considering that some pre-1914 badges and CEF badges were worn after 1920 - 16th CEF worn by The Canadian Scottish, 7th CEF worn by The BC Regiment - A 1920-50 Book is going to be a pretty tall order. Photographic evidence is going to be key as General Orders do not cover all badges that were worn.
Also, is this to include cloth badges? I can see this getting very big, and requiring input from various "experts". It may be that it will require an editor rather than one author as there are many people who have expertise in different aspects and units.
Food for thought.

Phil

LLWill 28-12-08 06:11 PM

13th Scottish
 
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Originally Posted by Bill A (Post 29459)
Larry, If I am reading Stewart's Concise Lineages of the Canadian Army 1855 - Date correctly, the 13th Scottish Light Dragoons were not disbanded until 1936. That would make the badge also part of the 20-36 period.

Yes- I agree! So the badge first shows in the pre-1914 period and the GO gives the reference. The badge is also valid for the 20-50 time period as it is still valid, is being worn and has not had a design change.

servicepub 29-12-08 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillip Herring (Post 29463)
A 1920-50 Book is going to be a pretty tall order. Photographic evidence is going to be key as General Orders do not cover all badges that were worn.
Also, is this to include cloth badges? I can see this getting very big, and requiring input from various "experts". It may be that it will require an editor rather than one author as there are many people who have expertise in different aspects and units.

Phil

No cloth badges as that is a different kind of hurt and is already in the early research stages.
Metal cap, collar and shoulder badges, to include those that were introduced in the 1920 - 1950 era (as the assumption is that those that were introduced pre-1920 have been covered elsewhere and can be referenced). Definitely photographic, front and backs. The challenge is quality photography although digitals make it easier these days.
An editor would be required but a specialist (or two) could be responsible for individual chapters.
http://www.canadiansoldiers.com has useful lists of extant units at various ties and these could be used to define the scope of badges covered.

Clive

Doug N 01-01-09 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill A (Post 29324)
Hello Doug,
1. I have never seen a "matched" pair of kc Canadian Provost Corps collars. Do you have a pair?
2. Do you have an image of the PLDG's maple leaf collars?
3. Doug, what is your reference for the swap on these?
4. Thanks for pointing that one out.
5. Question, is there a ALI without the Nulli Secundus motto? Or, Mazeas made an error on these illustrations. (That would have most of us chasing an imaginary badge...)

1. I do! These are my year end '08 aquisition.
2. See below. Also a scan of the "correct" Beaver collars.
3. I guess you've got me Bill - I don't have a reference. I'm too lazy to be a good researcher, & this may be one of those stubborn opinions which gets trotted out as fact. I know the opinion is shared by some well respected prairie guys, but I can offer no empirical proof.
4. On a side note, at least one officers badge exists for the BCH (or VIS if you will) Bronze overlays on brass - very classy.
5. I'll go out on a limb here & say there is no such thing as an ALI badge without the Nulli Secundus motto. Obviously, a statement that something doesn't exist can never be wholly proven - it can only be dis-proven. If there is a motto-less badge, someone on the forum will produce evidence on the next posting.

Bill A 15-01-09 01:31 AM

Being loaned a copy of the GO's 1937-38 (thanks Service Pub), I found an interesting ammendment for the Pictou Higlanders. GO 83/1938 amends GO 57/1923 from "gilt" to "In silver". The appropriate badge for the Pictou's would then be gilt badge until sometime after 1938, and then the white metal one. So a brass Pictou is an early issue badge.

Bill A 23-02-09 06:26 PM

In Mazeas, the Calgary Regiment, M 154 does not have collars illustrated, but M 170, King's Own Calgary Regiment does. Were there no collars for the M 154 pattern?

WJ Miller 24-02-09 12:52 AM

?? Yes, they did...
 
Hi Bill, I am at work and don't have Mazeus in front of me, but the matching collars to M.154 should be a pair of Alberta provincial coat of arms with a numeral 50 on them (perpetuating the 50th CEF Bn IIRC)??

Link to a photo of the pair.

Link to a wartime photo of a Capt. Rogers in SD. (Red Deer Archives)

DavidS 05-04-09 04:52 PM

Large beaver variant, Canadian Forestry Corps, not shown.

Bill A 05-04-09 09:29 PM

Clarification on this CFC badge. There is one badge that has a crisp sharp striking and the other more common "fuzzy" striking (less clear striking). Which one is the large beaver?

DavidS 06-04-09 01:54 AM

From DougN's photo additions to the CFC thread in corps category, looks like there are both well detailed and 'blobbo' small beaver types, in addition to the sharper more detailed large beaver type that started me thinking about this.

Bill A 26-04-09 11:44 AM

In the string on the Hallmarks, the Queen's York Rangers badges were discussed. Doug N has posted an image of the officer's pattern cap badge, a badge that is not included in Mazeas.
In addition, Mazeas has two line drawings of the M26 QY Rang badge, but I can't see the difference between the two cap badges. The collars are different, reflecting the change in tasking to an MG regiment. Mazeas has not put in any explanation about the badges, or added an alpha designation for the second cap badge.

Bill A 24-01-10 05:50 PM

Any more corrections come to light recently?

barriefield-brian 25-01-10 05:08 PM

Page 39, C.40a, 8th Recce with Canada in the scroll never existed. I have talked with many members and no-one has seen one. Where did he find the example to sketch? Cheers Brian


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