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Chacal 07-09-17 07:03 PM

2nd Australian Army Formation Sign?
 
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Good day gentlemen

I got this attached patch in a job lot a year ago and it has been a bit of a puzzle, however I now think Iíve successfully IDíd it as 2nd Australian Army. What Iíd like to know is am I right in my identification? Is it a genuine item? It appears to be unused, a loose thread burned, rather than melted, so is not man-made fibre. It does, however, feel soft unlike unissued British printed signs which are often stiff. And is it possible to give a date for itís use?

Caveat: once these questions are answered to my satisfaction it will be available for swap or sale (or the bin, if a fake).

Thanks for looking

Graham

manchesters 07-09-17 07:06 PM

Graham,

Correct ID.

Worn from c.1942 in Australia only.

Looks original.

regards

Chacal 07-09-17 07:08 PM

Thank you very much Simon, that was quick and much appreciated.

Graham

slick_mick 07-09-17 08:38 PM

Sorry gents - these formation patches were never worn in Australia during WW2.

The Australian Army only had formation patches after WW2.

I believe they are vehicle formation signs that someone has made into (fantasy) patches.

Regards,

Mick

Mike Jackson 07-09-17 08:42 PM

Second Aust Army
 
I'm sure we'll get the expert opinion from Australia but I have always believed that the 2 AIF formation signs were only borne on signboards and vehicles. The Second Aust Army colour patch - worn on uniform - was a square, divided vertically Scarlet/Black/Scarlet.(GRO 149/42). Many (25) of the designs for the pictorial formation Signs are contained in Howard Cole's Heraldry in War. Mike

slick_mick 07-09-17 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Jackson (Post 419575)
I'm sure we'll get the expert opinion from Australia but I have always believed that the 2 AIF formation signs were only borne on signboards and vehicles. The Second Aust Army colour patch - worn on uniform - was a square, divided vertically Scarlet/Black/Scarlet.(GRO 149/42). Many (25) of the designs for the pictorial formation Signs are contained in Howard Cole's Heraldry in War. Mike

That's correct Mike.

These formation signs were only for signs and vehicles.

Mick

badgecollector 08-09-17 01:21 AM

agreed with mick and mike
fantasy patch probably produced in the early 1970s.
bc

lettman 17-09-17 08:56 AM

These and related 'signs' turn up frequently in both printed and embroidered form -- they are fakes, the lot of them, never worn.


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