Fire brigade badges
 

Gentlemen
A few more from my collection
First is a Bootle Liverpool cap badge
Second helmet plate
Third general cap badge?

They are all generic badges, not affiliated to any individual Fire Brigade.

The first may be the Fire Brigade Association cap badge, certainly not specific to Bootle.

regards

I can confirm what Simon has said. The first badge was never worn by Bootle or by Liverpool. All generic.

Dave.

Interesting
I got my information from the gigantic fire brigade collection sold in 2014 the Hallam collection

Kind regards Chay

Bootle is the grenade above it

These generic greande badges have been appearing on ebay over the years.
Each has a small Town crest on the ball, hence the ID of each. They bring a lot of money.

regards

Yes correct
The grenade is the Bootle
I browsed the entire collection online and he had some great pieces!

Kind regards Chay

Simon,

Yes, it has the label "Bootle" underneath it but has on the ball a Norfolk Police collar badge! The genuine Bootle FB cap badge of the period was a brass wreath with the Bootle Arms in the centre.

Dave.

Yes, and most are total "duds"!

Dave.

Dave,

I saw an Ashton under Lyne one on ebay a few weeks ago which was clearly a police collar badge on the grenade.

I looked at many of the other similar ones he was selling and saw every one had identical wires/blades holding the coat of arms on and reached the conclusion that all had been 'adapted' to fit a grenade and were therefore a collectors fantasy creation.

Having said that it brought over £200!!!!

regards

Ouch,
The internet is a great thing for sharing information!
Unfortunate what happened in the dark ages one has to be very careful

Kind regards Chay

Simon,

In fairness to the seller, he was probably unaware of what he was getting rid of. I don't know who "Hallam" was but he certainly didn't do his homework. An excellent example of how, many years down the line, these spurious items continue their cycle of deception.

Dave.

Dave,

The buyers seem also to be unaware of what they were buying.

Sadly in 50 years all this will have been forgotton and they will then be regarded as genuine.

regards

Three more badges

Simon,

Yes, you are spot on. A little research before pressing the "bid" button would pay dividends, alas failure to do so can be a very expensive business.

Regards, Dave.