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ParaDave 18-08-22 05:28 PM

WWI Formation Signs on a tunic, please help!
 
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I would appreciate any help on these patches. They are on a tunic in great condition - many thanks!

grey_green_acorn 18-08-22 09:36 PM

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LG in Wreath above corporals stripes indicates a Lewis Gunner. Grenade above RSF is Royal Scot’s Fusiliers shoulder title. Overseas chevrons on lower right cuff. Two wound stripes on lower left cuff.
The buttons look like the double headed eagle of the Lanarkshire Yeomanry which in early 1917 was amalgamated with The Ayrshire Yeomanry to form the 12th (Ayr and Lanark Yeomanry) Battalion of the Royal Scots Fusiliers in 74th (Yeomanry) Division, seeing service in the Palestine campaign before moving to the Western Front in May 1918.

Tim

Rob Miller 19-08-22 07:50 AM

If you put the two cloth formation? badges together they remind me a bit of this combined device on a helmet.

Rob

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...eomanry+helmet

MH331 19-08-22 08:14 AM

I will check my references when I get home to see if I can attribute the patches to the RSF.

MH331 19-08-22 02:42 PM

I can’t find the formation patches on the jacket attributed to the RSF

KOMalta 19-08-22 11:25 PM

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The white/red formation patch is very similar to the 2nd Battalion King's Own Malta Regiment!? However I can't make out which part of the tunic it's attached to!

grey_green_acorn 20-08-22 07:06 AM

The white and red diamond is sewn on below the jacket collar.

These 'battle patches' were used in a wide variety of shapes and colour schemes to indicate companies and battalions. They were worn below the collar and/or on the upper arms.

Tim

cbuehler 20-08-22 03:29 PM

I must say that to find an OR tunic with all of these "bells and whistles" is exceedingly rare.
The tunic's condition looks to be one as worn at home, with wound stripes and overseas stripes, regimental buttons etc., and not one that was worn in the trenches. The battle flash worn below the tunic collar were not normally worn in any conditions other than the front lines.
It could very well be that the wearer had this tunic all done up in the period and managed to retain it as such, but it did not see service in the front lines.
It is also possible that it was set up at some time post war.

CB

gary1666 20-08-22 04:33 PM

Is the white/red patch 93 Brigade? But orientated incorrectly? Although I don't see the RSF being included in the list of units

MH331 20-08-22 10:34 PM

CB,

Battle patches were worn in and out of the line and not confined to thd trenches many jackets would have come home with them still applied I have and have owned several examples.

Mark

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Originally Posted by cbuehler (Post 585726)
I must say that to find an OR tunic with all of these "bells and whistles" is exceedingly rare.
The tunic's condition looks to be one as worn at home, with wound stripes and overseas stripes, regimental buttons etc., and not one that was worn in the trenches. The battle flash worn below the tunic collar were not normally worn in any conditions other than the front lines.
It could very well be that the wearer had this tunic all done up in the period and managed to retain it as such, but it did not see service in the front lines.
It is also possible that it was set up at some time post war.

CB


cymro 21-08-22 07:54 AM

I have seen the red white triangle in this position before on a tropical WW1 tunic to the 5th East Lancs, 42nd Division who served in the canal zone. Perhaps as was often the case he transferred to the RSF later and this tunic is reflective of his entire service?

poona guard 23-01-23 04:43 PM

yeomanry tunic
 
The red/white diamond was the yeomanry brigade badge of 31 Division


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