Black Watch piper tunic... outrageous price?
 

The vendors on ebay never cease to amaze me. This lot for a Black Watch piper tunic and kit is the most recent example of unrealistic pricing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Hackle on the right side of the helmet ???.....Despatch rider upside down armband......metal piper's badges....Italian and French medals......UN Korea medal and Defence medal.....badly hand-sewn BW and Canada titles.....and finally equipped with an officer's webbing set....
As our distinguished fellow members would say........I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole (in the USA, a ten foot pole...)
But hey, that's just me.
Jo

Black Watch piper tunic?
 

Gentlemen,
The audacity of the price is only exceeded by the outlandish conglomeration purported to be a ‘uniform’. ‘Pathetic’ is the word that immediately comes to mind. As a resident of Arizona, and a serious student of military history, I sincerely apologize for this abomination supposedly representing a pipe-major of the The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada. The seller would be well advised to, at the very least, glance through the book, The Black Watch The Black Watch Photographic Archive, The Black Watch Regimental Trustees, Tempus Publishing Ltd., 2000, Stroud, Gloucestershire. Believe it or not there are still some of us ‘Colonials’ (particularly of Scottish ancestry) who can show a modicum of respect for the proud military heritage of Scotland throughout the former Commonwealth and Dominions .
Jim
Liberated Arizona Territory

Hi Jim, One clarification, he is representing this as a Canadian Black Watch.

I think your being to Kind Mr. Bill in your choice of words, Holy Molly what utter Nonsence, I going to send him a MSG.
Thank you Mr Bill for posting this. I Though maybe $1000.00US or Two, I clicked on the link my mouth dropped Shocked
into chagrin, as I uttered some Potty mouth words that's not in my nature:D.

Great Scots I don't believe thats a Second World War Hackle? I talked to many at the Regiment and advised, they would
take of an 1" around from the top of them making them much smaller, confirmed Fact.

A Hackle worn on the right side for 1st Bn Black Watch (RHC) sacrilege and blasphemy. The Seller deserves a Regimental Flogging,
an insult to 13Batt 1st Canadian Division, God Bless their "Dead Game" Hearts.

Only 13th Batt wore the Hackle on the right side, and that's after
they Muddied the Water.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ick_Fisher.jpg

"Sir Frederick Fisher V.C."


Lest We Forget.



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The whole uniform is completley made-up as the BD Tunic and the shirt underneath are both post-WWII patterns. This along with all of the other bits of insignia, medals and web equipment is best purchased (for far less than what is being asked) for the pieces and not as an accurate grouping.

The Seller is in the US, and has only sold 3 Items. The Hackle looks Canadian, but not from the Second World War.
Whoever I would need a better picture to confirm this, The shoulder Title says Canada.

I think he put this together:confused:

I just saw your Post before I posted my last MSG, I took a closer look.

You're 110% Right. Some have no shame when it comes to making a $.


P.S. Where's my beloved Capt. Adam H. ? I'm sure hill snap if he sees this, Lol.

Black Watch piper tunic?
 

Hi Bill,
You are absolutely correct. My sincere apologies, and due deference to The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada. In this day and age when we are so prone to have politically correct hyphenated nationalities, I for one still think of Scots as Scots the world over, and I contend that seller is insulting everyone of us.
Jim

Hi Jim, Agreed indeed. The seller is very audacious in his description and pricing.

If people are going to put these things together they should at least know what to add. How many ww2 Canadian groups are out there with just a Defense Medal should be at least a CVSM and bar as well as the 39-45 War Medal as a minimum.

Stephen

What, you don't think a court-mounted medal, a couple of swing mounts, a ribbon bar for the Voluntary Service medal but no actual medal, and a couple of foreign ones scattered around the right breast isn't kosher??? Dang, there goes MY whole collection :p

The reason the Webley isn't included is so the vendor can use it to try and hold up someone with his/her next listing, perhaps?

Hello - At the end of the day the item will make what the item will make ! Or it may not sell ! About thirty years ago, a seller was fined £150.00 in a Scottish Sheriff's Court for selling cigar butts stated to have been discarded by Winston Churchill - but not until he had sold over 60 of them - all spurious. I blame the idiots who buy ! His fine was a tiny percentage of the money he had made. And so the practice continues ........!!

I have sent an @ to the seller asking for a picture of the Hackle I know the difference between a Great War, WWII ,
Korean hackle to a 70s 80s and 90s.

I've also sent an @ to Mr. Cal at our Museum therefore will know if It's Black Watch, and what year.

The shoulder Title as the hackle is, what year is the question plus the Brass RHC are missing from the epaulets.

The point is did a member of The Black Watch wear this uniform?

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You are making way too much out of this made-up uniform. The whole thing looks like it has been cobbled together from all manner of assorted items and is not worth the effort of informing the owner what it isn't nor getting to worked up about the various pieces. I would not go wasting museum staff time on this.