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tarabelle 18-10-20 04:50 PM

Are they all Royal Irish Regiemnt
 
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Hey :)

I've been trying to figure out what these are and I think they are royal Irish Regiment? And the first 2 are for caubeens ? But why does the last one have a Slider as I cant see any online?

T X

Not mines

Mike H 18-10-20 05:01 PM

The 1st one LH is the current issue R.Irish caubeen badge
The centre is Royal Irish Rangers caubeen badge ,predecessor of the R.Irish
The 3rd RH is the R.Irish beret badge. I'm sure that when they came into existence they wore a beret not a caubeen. Col Tim Collins badgered for this to be changed. Which it was,badge was as 3 but with lugs rather than a slider.

tarabelle 18-10-20 06:13 PM

:) it really confused me

Thank you for all the info

T X

Alan O 18-10-20 06:16 PM

Upon creation they wore the beret in working dress and the Caubeen in No2 dress. The beret was seen as a UDR item and unpopular with the Regualrs. Tim Collins had the caubeen adopted in working dress by the 1st bn.

tarabelle 18-10-20 06:17 PM

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So this is it in the beret?

Alan O 18-10-20 06:21 PM

Yes. Green beret if the UDR.

mrmovieprop 23-02-21 09:49 PM

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Since you are talking about the caubeen I have questions about mine. My Caubeen its black. So you are saying the badge does not belong on this and belongs on a regular beret? Or is my badge a larger variation of the one on the right that does belong on a Caubeen?

grey_green_acorn 23-02-21 10:02 PM

Is it black? Should be a dark rifle green. Is there a label inside?

Tim

mrmovieprop 23-02-21 10:29 PM

Its black I have read black is for the irish defense forces. At least it looks black to me. I see no labels inside it does have a flap in the hat with snaps you could snap inside it though. It came to me unsnapped though


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Royal-Iri...-/362392816854 that looks to be black

leigh kitchen 24-02-21 07:27 AM

Possibly dark blue, rather than black?

dubaiguy 24-02-21 07:52 AM

The Royal Irish Rangers looks like Desperate Dan's sister. Concerning patina too.
Mark

Hoot 24-02-21 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmovieprop (Post 539882)
Its black I have read black is for the irish defense forces. At least it looks black to me. I see no labels inside it does have a flap in the hat with snaps you could snap inside it though. It came to me unsnapped though


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Royal-Iri...-/362392816854 that looks to be black

152 (Ulster) Regiment, Royal Corps of Transport (Volunteers) pipers wore a dark blue caubeen with a dark green hackle. I suspect that's what you have there but clearly with the wrong badge.

leigh kitchen 24-02-21 11:39 AM

Or a dark blue caubeen as also worn by 40th (Ulster) Signal Regiment (Volunteers) but with R Sigs badge and light blue/ blue/ green hackle.

mrmovieprop 25-02-21 12:58 AM

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A picture of the inside flap.
I see several places online make black Caubeen such as http://www.scotlandproductsonline.co...ubeen-hat.html Did non military people wear them in black or is there a reason people would want black or brown on these?

It looks black to me but some fading or what not could possibly be another color like dark green or blue but looks black to me. Could be a non military one someone had made and them attached a badge to. But seems unlikely.

buttonhole badge 25-02-21 01:06 PM

Dk blue caubeen
 
Dark blue caubeens were worn by RInF & RIrF up to '68.

I have previously written at length on the RIRang/UDR CGC and the various badges worn post July '92.

Remember silver badge for caubeen, at first lugged, both officers silver (Edinburgh HM) & anodised OR's.

Working dress for RIRegt was beret & GOLD anodised badge.

The beret was only removed from dress regs about 2010, I was in RHQ at the time and had worn them all, both Regt's pre/post amalgamation.

Col Collins adopted the caubeen in all forms of dress some time earlier. The scarcest RIRegt head dress badge is the officers silver bullion beret badge transitional between the beret being dumped and the caubeen taking over. Slidered silver anodised badges also date from about that time. A gold anodised pattern exists with a bulbous crown which was manufactured when existing stocks of 'UDR' badges were exhausted long after the Regt had passed into history much misunderstood & unfairly maligned by the great unwashed.

On a point of order HS soldiers did the same training as GS soldiers and after battlecamp when the GS recruits went back to the depot for several weeks prior to being sent to Bn the HS troops did more advanced training so in fact were more highly trained than the so called 'regulars'.


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