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Voltigeur

07-08-16 03:30 PM

Russian Relief Force,British, badge, formation,

© IWM (INS 7577)
Dimensions
1/2: 71 mm
2/2: 70 mm
2/2: 74 mm

http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib...3093/large.jpg

I have posted these in the hope that some member(s) might have more informations to share with us....

Jo

Voltigeur

08-08-16 01:45 PM

Nobody has an answer.......or idea...or a photograph these being worn....
Jo

Peter Brydon

08-08-16 02:44 PM

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There is an illustration ( drawing ) in " British Territorial Units 1914-18" by Westlake and Chappell ( Plate E 1 ) which shows a Private of 2/10th Royal Scots in Russia and an illustration of this sign.

The description says "......the "Polar Star sign was worn on service dress sleeves by the 2/10th Royal Scots and other infantry units in North Russia......"

Also shown in "Divisional and other Signs " by Wheeler_Holohan.

P.B.

Voltigeur

08-08-16 03:53 PM

Thank you very much,Peter......it is appreciated.
Jo

Bill A

08-08-16 04:43 PM

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North Russia Force inlcuded a Canadian contingent. It was made up of 67 and 68 CFA batteries plus some support personnel.
This example is from my collection.

Bill A

08-08-16 04:47 PM

(By the way, the IWM image shows the patches in an incorrect orientation. They should be shown (and worn) with the arm of the star oriented as illustrated in Peter's attachment. My image is not oriented correctly.)

Voltigeur

08-08-16 05:12 PM

Bill,thanks for noticing but.....it's one of an countless numbers of mistakes made by the IWM..Like the one showing the Popski's Private Army's cap badge upside down.....

Jo

Blackadder1916

08-08-16 05:14 PM

https://www.awm.gov.au/images/collec...EEN/A02497.JPG

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/A02497/

Quote:

Portrait of Corporal Arthur Percival Sullivan VC, a member of the AIF, who, later enlisted in the North Russian Relief Force, in the 45th Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers and gained his Victoria Cross for gallantry in rescuing under fire an officer and three men from drowning whilst fighting a rearguard action during a withdrawal across the Sheika River. Corporal Sullivan is wearing the North Russian Relief Force Star.

Blackadder1916

08-08-16 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill A (Post 370958)

(By the way, the IWM image shows the patches in an incorrect orientation. They should be shown (and worn) with the arm of the star oriented as illustrated in Peter's attachment.)

Most of the photos I've seen of allied troops in Russia does not show them wearing the "star", however the temperature shifts of the region had them either bundled up in greatcoats or furs to fight the cold or down to their shirt sleeves for physical labor when the weather so permitted. However these couple of examples (courtesy of the IWM) do show the badge as they were most probably worn - on both sleeves, and though one of the images shows it clearly with the point up, the other soldier apparently has sewn the one on his right sleeve more skewed.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205250994

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205250992

Bill A

08-08-16 08:20 PM

Excellent images. The star portion of these badges seems larger than my example, but these were mostly hand cut and made. (It looks like the star would be correct on the second image if his sleeve was down.)
It is not uncommon for the user to have the badges sewn on incorrectly. Witness the orientation of the thunderbolts on artillery formation signs.

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