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Charlie 585 03-06-16 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 363085)
Surely the loop holds the long 1903 slider (vertical shank) and the backing cloth conceals it? No lugs involved. For the Army the slider is shortened in 1906 following the introduction of the peaked cap.

That makes perfect sense, only not being familiar with the badge, are there long (1903 type) slidered examples known?

Irv 03-06-16 08:14 PM

That would make a lot of sense. Have you any pictures of that particular badge?

Irv 03-06-16 08:15 PM

That was strange. Almost the same reply:D

Alan O 03-06-16 08:20 PM

I have seen RMLI with long and short sliders. As the cap could be RMLI and not RMA then the slider and loop matches.

Irv 03-06-16 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 363090)
I have seen RMLI with long and short sliders. As the cap could be RMLI and not RMA then the slider and loop matches.

Definitely RMA and not RMLI. I have a RMLI badge with the long slider. I think the trouble with the RMA badge is it is the same size as the collar badges and you will never find the badges sold as collar badges, they are always cap badges! Might it be that the badges with the lugs are collar badges and the cap badge was fitted with a slider?? The only trouble with that is I have never seem a RMA badge with a slider.

Alan O 03-06-16 08:44 PM

All too true. Could you fasten the lugged RMA grenade thought the red felt and not pierce the hat itself?

Irv 03-06-16 08:54 PM

The badge is attached to the red flash only on my cap. When the flash is tucked inside it will only go down as far as the bottom lug. It would seem that if the badge had a slider it would be able to go through the flash and into that loop of thread, thus holding the flash and badge in place. If you look at all the old photos the badge sits so that the badge is half one side of the red piping and half the other. This can't be done with a lugged badge.
Surely this forum must be the best place to find a member who had a RMA cap badge with a slider:D

Irv 03-06-16 09:27 PM

I presume this is a guards badge.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-ROYAL-...oAAOSwepZXRdHR

Irv 03-06-16 09:48 PM

I've worked it out:D:D
I was right about the RMA badges with the vertical lugs are really the collar badges. The cap badges have horizontal lugs!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW1-Royal-Ma...p2047675.l2557

Irv 10-06-16 09:50 AM

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Thanks to BJ (RBJ Militaria) for his help.
The cap is finished and looks much better with the correct cap badge in position:D

Charlie 585 10-06-16 10:17 AM

Well done Irv,

Nice to see that you got to the bottom of this one and thanks for showing the result, a very nice cap.

Is there any chance of you posting comparison images of the front and back of both badges please? Showing the N-S and E-W loops, I'm sure that would provide a useful reference for future enquirers.

Regards Ry

Irv 10-06-16 10:53 AM

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Comparison Collar badge on the left and cap badge on right:)

paul w 12-06-16 11:44 AM

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The positioning also probably depended on how many wets the gunner had had the night before!

Irv 22-07-16 01:13 PM

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Hi Guy's,

I thought I would update you with my quest to place this lovely RMA Brodrick cap on an original RMA tunic. The inspection stamp is a little light, I think it reads 1911.
This is the result.

Regards
Irv:)

PS I know this belt isn't quite right but I'm working on it.

chief_chum 17-10-16 05:58 PM

I have still never seen a complete, original Brodrick with anything other than lugged badges.

This was the original thread mentioned above with my posts of original Brodricks and showing how the badges are fixed to the peaks which are then fastened to the cap with a hook:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=28138


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