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Mike Jackson 04-11-13 05:57 PM

94 (Dorset and Hants) Fd Regt RA
 
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This unit has its roots in the Queen's Own Dorset Yeomanry, but lost the Yeomanry from its title when it was split in two in order to form its duplicate - 141 (QODY) Fd Regt RA. These SNCOs are from 94 Fd Regt in May 44 and they appear to be wearing their grenade cap badge on a rectangular cloth backing. Pre-War the QODY wore, uniquely I think, a green hatband. So would the later badge backing be the logical red/blue or would green have been incorporated somehow?
Your views would be welcome. Thanks. Mike
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Alan O 03-10-20 01:12 PM

An interesting photo if only to show that the ORs were wearing the standard RA badges during the war. Its possible the 141 (QODY) Fd Regt RA wore the QODY badge but they may have worn the RA as well.

Does anyone know when/if the Dorset yeomanry badge was resurrected? The 2nd pattern with the Great War title was seled in 1935:

badge, label, wax seal. Badge: A bronzed metal cap badge for the Queen's Own Dorset Yeomanry, being a circular Garter with motto, in the voided centre of which a diagonal scroll on which DORSET with QO above and Y below, the Garter topped by a King's crown and is enclosed in an open-topped laurel wreath on which four ribbands, top left and right SOUTH / AFRICA, lower left and right 1900 / 1901, across the foot of the wreath a horizontal three-part scroll on which THE / GREAT / WAR. Slider to reverse on which stamped FIRMAN (?) LONDON. A hole drilled in the lower part of the slider. Label: CLOTHING INSPECTORATE DEPARTMENT (Label C); Sample of Pn. No: 10860; Official Designation: CB 1261, Badges Cap Yeomanry Artillery Dorsetshire; Date of sealing: 2/10/1935. Reverse: Five order notations from 28/12/35 to 18/12/39.

Wmr-RHB 03-10-20 02:53 PM

Norman E.H. Litchfield in The Territorial Artillery 1908 - 1988 on page 51:
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Upon amalgamation with 341st Medium Regt. in 1950, the Dorset Yeomanry cap badge was reintroduced and continued to be worn together with a yellow and green twisted lanyard by all ranks until 1961.

Alan O 03-10-20 02:57 PM

Thank you. That would infer that the the 294th (Queen's Own Dorset Yeomanry) Field Regiment RA and the 341st (Queen’s Own Dorset Yeomanry) Medium Regiment RA had worn the RA badge previously.

It would be interesting to know if the Q/C badge was worn by the ORs or not prior to the new a/a badge in 1961.

Wmr-RHB 03-10-20 03:04 PM

Same source, next page (about 141st/341st):
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Upon formation in 1939 the Regiment took over the custom of wearing the Dorset Yeomanry insignia from 94th Field Regt. and continued it in the post war years. A dark green backing was authorised in 1951 for wear behind the beret badge.

3dg 05-10-20 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan O (Post 524558)
An interesting photo if only to show that the ORs were wearing the standard RA badges during the war. Its possible the 141 (QODY) Fd Regt RA wore the QODY badge but they may have worn the RA as well.

Does anyone know when/if the Dorset yeomanry badge was resurrected? The 2nd pattern with the Great War title was seled in 1935:

badge, label, wax seal. Badge: A bronzed metal cap badge for the Queen's Own Dorset Yeomanry, being a circular Garter with motto, in the voided centre of which a diagonal scroll on which DORSET with QO above and Y below, the Garter topped by a King's crown and is enclosed in an open-topped laurel wreath on which four ribbands, top left and right SOUTH / AFRICA, lower left and right 1900 / 1901, across the foot of the wreath a horizontal three-part scroll on which THE / GREAT / WAR. Slider to reverse on which stamped FIRMAN (?) LONDON. A hole drilled in the lower part of the slider. Label: CLOTHING INSPECTORATE DEPARTMENT (Label C); Sample of Pn. No: 10860; Official Designation: CB 1261, Badges Cap Yeomanry Artillery Dorsetshire; Date of sealing: 2/10/1935. Reverse: Five order notations from 28/12/35 to 18/12/39.

Is this the badge described on AlanO's post?

Chris

Alan O 05-10-20 02:10 PM

That's it.

3dg 05-10-20 02:47 PM

Thank you Alan,
Strange to choose bronzed instead of GM or WM, any idea why?
So this was worn by 141/294/341 DY Batteries?
Chris

Wmr-RHB 05-10-20 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 3dg (Post 524777)
Thank you Alan,
Strange to choose bronzed instead of GM or WM, any idea why?
So this was worn by 141/294/341 DY Batteries?
Chris

The were Regiments, not Batteries.

Alan O 05-10-20 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 3dg (Post 524777)
Thank you Alan,
Strange to choose bronzed instead of GM or WM, any idea why?
So this was worn by 141/294/341 DY Batteries?
Chris

The Yeomanry had a history of Bronzed badges on khaki caps. They had worn a w/m version on No1 Dress hats pre WW1,

3dg 05-10-20 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wmr-RHB (Post 524778)
The were Regiments, not Batteries.

Sorry, an error, was this badge worn by all the Regiments?
And thank you AlanO for your reply, was it mainly post WW1 wearing bronzed?

Chris

Alan O 05-10-20 06:08 PM

Several yeomanry regiments wore bronze from 1908. There were a variety of badges in different finished often for different hats so it's complex.

3dg 05-10-20 08:11 PM

Thanks Alan, very interesting.
Much appreciated

Chris

Alan O 11-10-20 07:11 PM

I have been unable to find why the sealing date is so late at 1935 rtaher than 1920.

Either the DY wore the RA badge from 1920-35 or the 1908 badge was not changed until 1935.

Post WW2 the design changed to the w/m version which remained in use with the k/c until amalgamation. It's possible officers wore Q/C badges but it seems probable that ORs did not and the q/c badges are from the 1970's onwards.

Luke H 11-10-20 08:39 PM

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I can confirm that a metal QC Dorset Yeo badge was never issued but a die was cut and SP exists.

Alan - I’ll ask KH what the DY were wearing those dates, am sure he will know.


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