Anodised Aluminium Cap Badges By H W Timings Limited
 

Hi Guys,

This week it's H W Timings Limited.

Remember, only those badge in collections you can actually touch for inclusion.

Here's mine to get going:

1st to 4th City Of London Regiment
10th Royal Hussars
12th Lancers
Army Air Corps
Berkshire Yeomanry
Birmingham University UTC
Crown (Civilian Employees)
Durham Light Infantry
Essex Yeo KC
Essex Yeomanry with QC (32mm beret size).
Forester Brigade
Green Howards (1st Pattern)
Hertfordshire Yeo
Home Counties Brigade
Household Cavalry
Monmouth School
Northumberland Hussars
Notts & Derby
Parachute Regt
PWO Regiment Of Yorkshire (Scroll 'Leeds Rifles')
Lancastrian Brigade
Leicestershire & Derbyshire Yeo
Life Guards
Light Infantry
Mercian Bde
Military Provost Staff Corps
Queens Own Hussars
Royal Ulster Rifles
Sheffield University U.T.C
St Andrews University UTC (Kings Crown)
Suffolk Regiment
Suffolk & Norfolk Yeomanry
Sussex Yeomanry ( Q.C)
War Dept Police (Cyprus)
Welsh Regiment
West Yorkshire Regiment


Regards

Chris

Only one by this manufacturer:-

Home Counties Brigade

OC14

G'day Chris

Only one from me also

Notts & Derby (HW.Timings ltd B'ham)

Cheers
John

Chris

A few more for your list:-

Suffolk Regiment
Hertfordshire Yeo
West Yorkshire Regiment
Birmingham University UTC
Leicestershire & Derbyshire Yeo
Essex Yeo KC
10th Royal Hussars
East Yorkshire Regiment (already discussed authenticity of this one with you)

Paddy

Thanks Guys,

Paddy, looking at the slider on your East Yorkshire Regiment badge show what looks very much like a London Badge and Button Co slider with a Timing mark added. The badge body though to be fair to LB&B does not look like their work and I think someone has taken a plain LB&B skider, marked it probably with the original Timings punch and added it to a dodgy body made via open casting. I would of course need to see this in the hand to be sure one way or the other.

The provence of where you got it from does not leave me with confidence as to authenticity either.

Mate, I'll leave this one off for now.

Regards

Chris

Suffolk & Norfolk Yeomanry
Mark

H.W TIMINGS
 

A few more Chris,

The Life Guards
The Queens Own Hussars
12th Lancers
Sussex Yeomanry ( Q.C)
The Green Howards (1st Pattern)
The Light Infantry
The Royal Ulster Rifles
The Mercian Bde
The Lancastrian Brigade
The Parachute Regt
Sheffield University U.T.C

Best Regards.
ukbrits

Thanks Guys,

Regards

Chris

Just the One

Army Air Corps

Cheers, Dave

Thanks Dave...

Regards

Chris

I have the following one: Essex Yeomanry with QC (32mm beret size).

As noted earlier in the thread there is also a KC beret badge from them

Thanks Mate,

Both covered now.

Regards

Chris

Have one to add:

Forester Brigade

Regards Tony.

Thanks Again...

Regards

Chris

timings a/a badges
 

Hi Chris,
2 more to add, they are -
The Berkshire Yeomanry &
The Welsh Regiment

Best Regards
UKbrits

Thanks Mate.

Regards

Chris

h.w timings
 

Hi Chris,
One more for the list -
Monmouth School
Regards
UKbrits

Thanks!!!!

Hi Chris

There is an example of the LDYPAO "Timmings" badge in my LDYPAO Post :D

Its the infamous "Flat" badge (Yuck!)

Have you got the production dates etc?

LDYPAO A/A
 

Hi Chris

Here is the “H.W.TIMINGS LTD B’HAM” LDYPAO AA Badge.

It is identical to the post 1970 JR Gaunt….. I reckon it’s the same die purchased by Timings from Gaunts. The back of the badge is different …. But the face of the badge is exact….. in fact I prefer it to the Gaunts “Dazzler”…. Timings made this one less bright.

Slider width = 5.6mm; Length = 38.6mm; thickness = 1.6mm
http://www.paoyeomanry.co.uk/Yeomanr...970Timings.jpg

Griff,

When you say that it is identical to the Gaunt version can you show where similarities in die flaws etc. from both marked badges exist.

If you could put both badges side by side and post here then that may help also.

Regards

Chris

Hi Chris

Compare it to the "Dazzler" by Gaunt. (do you think they sub contracted work for Gaunt?)

http://www.paoyeomanry.co.uk/Yeomanr...970Timings.jpg
JR Gaunt London (left) B'Ham (right) badges below:-
http://www.paoyeomanry.co.uk/Yeomanr...ostCollarK.jpg

Hi Griff,

These badges (I'm assuming the 1963 is the Timings and the 1970 the Gaunt) are from two very different dies or am I missing something here?

Regards

Chris

Sorry if you go back to my post you will see the 1963 is the Gaunt London and the 1970 is the Gaunt B'ham (Dazzler). Compare the Dazzler to the Timings.

Yes, they look similar - while not common the same dies being used by different companies is not unknown.

Regards

Chris

HW. Timings
 

Hi Chris,
One more for the list.
Durham L I beret HW. Timings
Best regards
UKbrits

You may even find that the Timings badge was made by Gaunt for a customer who asked for a Timings mark!:eek:

Hi 54 Bty,

Could be but I think the marks were added after they left the factory.

I'm unable to confirm this yet though as I need an example 'in hand' to look at properly.

For good badges maker marks were added to the slider before anodising and colouring as denoted by:

a) sometimes found on the reverse of the slider where access after assembly would be impossible for a punch
b) absence of damage to the anodic crust which would have been created by the maker mark punch strike
c) recessed character areas having the same colour as the slider and not exhibiting raw aluminium

An East Yorks came my way via photos on the weekend and I was not happy with it as the slider and manufacturer's mark did not reconcile.

Also some other factors of these dodgy badges did not look those attributed to the company they are purporting to have come from.

It came from a box load all wrapped in tissue or crepe paper from someone I have been investigating for some time now.

The issue is what other items are out there like this - hopefully they will be easy to spot and I now think I know what I'm looking for.

Regards

Chris

OK - Thanks!!!

Chris

Chris picked up an MOD Guards Service badge this morning with a Timmings mark.
cheers Tony.

Thanks Tony...

How old, in general, are badges by this particular maker?

Some of the oldest Frank. Without looking it up ,I think there isn't a Timings badge you could date after 1970.

Okay, many thanks, that is good to know.

Referencing Hagwalthers book,he states that "Timings expanded its commercial activities as far as New Zealand in the early 70's" . So rather than 1970 I'd push that out to 1975. There's only a handful of badges to regiments that existed after 1970.

Has South Wales Borderers been added to the list of Timings named badges?

Jack

Hi Frank,

Some of the very first A/A cap badges were made by Timings and if given a choice are the ones that I prefer to collect.

Regards,

Chris

Hello Chris,
These certainly do seem to be the badges to buy as far as anodised collecting goes, many thanks.
Regards Frank

I saw that one on e..y Jack. SWB marked badges are hard to find,either the Dowler or Timings versions

Hi Mike,

Apart from my Timings SWB badge that I posted on here, that is the only other one I have seen. I would image they are quite scarce.

Jack