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gurkharifles 01-04-20 03:57 PM

Auction Frame of SA volunteer badges
 
Not my particular field - but this looks nice - would any of the SA collectors like to comment on its authenticity and value? Opening bid is around £550 I think.
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...4-ab7900719676

manchesters 01-04-20 05:16 PM

They are the real deal.

Worth more than the estimate .

regards

Tinto 01-04-20 06:52 PM

Very nice lot, Thanks for the link.
I am wondering what the CR within bugle horn badge is for.
Cheers, John

Sonofacqms 01-04-20 07:24 PM

S.A. Badges
 
As to whether these badges that are framed have the loops/sliders is not mentioned in the description. Unfortunately many framed lots of badges that were collected in the early part of the last century had the fixings removed, fine if left intact in the frame.

Rob

fairlie63 02-04-20 03:23 AM

Interesting to see a silver Royal Artillery badge there with the crown removed - did Transvaal Horse Artillery Volunteers wear this.

Also my large grenade collar badges with THAV and THA in the scroll below are brass. I've always wondered why they weren't silver/white metal.

Nice collection though.

Keith

Frank Kelley 02-04-20 08:19 AM

They should make the top end estimate with ease and would certainly be worth it.


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Originally Posted by gurkharifles (Post 504777)
Not my particular field - but this looks nice - would any of the SA collectors like to comment on its authenticity and value? Opening bid is around £550 I think.
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...4-ab7900719676


John Mulcahy 02-04-20 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinto (Post 504793)
Very nice lot, Thanks for the link.
I am wondering what the CR within bugle horn badge is for.
Cheers, John

without wanting to side track this thread could it be related to the much re-struck/faked badge below which is sold unpierced and falsely claimed to be the Carlow Rifles Militia. I appreciate there are differences in the decorative elements on the hunting horn but I wonder if the unit is the same.

John

manchesters 02-04-20 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinto (Post 504793)
Very nice lot, Thanks for the link.
I am wondering what the CR within bugle horn badge is for.
Cheers, John

Dont think there is a CR in bugle horn badge in the frame.

I cant see it.

You have ER, NR and WR but all are voided.

regards

John Mulcahy 02-04-20 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by manchesters (Post 504837)
Dont think there is a CR in bugle horn badge in the frame.

I cant see it.

You have ER, NR and WR but all are voided.

regards

You may well be right - the shape/serif may indicate an "E' rather than "C"

Tinto 02-04-20 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mulcahy (Post 504839)
You may well be right - the shape/serif may indicate an "E' rather than "C"

I agree, most likely E.
Thanks, John

Milmed 03-04-20 05:36 AM

Definitely an E for 'Eastern Rifles'. There was no C Rifles regiment in the Transvaal Volunteer system.

As for brass badges, my thoughts is that the Transvaal Volunteers badges were all in white metal (or silver for officers) with a few exceptions among the infantry units who also had blackened brass badges.

The brass badges that are around I believe may be 1960s-1970s re-strikes from original dies.

Frank Kelley 03-04-20 06:50 AM

No, they did not wear the Royal Artillery cap badge, they wore their own distinctive gun pattern cap badges.


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Originally Posted by fairlie63 (Post 504815)
Interesting to see a silver Royal Artillery badge there with the crown removed - did Transvaal Horse Artillery Volunteers wear this.

Also my large grenade collar badges with THAV and THA in the scroll below are brass. I've always wondered why they weren't silver/white metal.

Nice collection though.

Keith


fairlie63 03-04-20 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Kelley (Post 504928)
No, they did not wear the Royal Artillery cap badge, they wore their own distinctive gun pattern cap badges.

That's what I thought Frank, I have one of the early THAV crownless gun badges in white metal. The history of the THA doesn't mention a crownless RA badge being worn so I thought I might ask.

Cheers, Keith

Frank Kelley 05-04-20 07:08 AM

I think that without seeing it you would want a condition report, the actual frame does appear to be old, certainly on the face of it, some nice and scarce badges and a good representative collection of the Transvaal Volunteer force, although incomplete.


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Originally Posted by Sonofacqms (Post 504798)
As to whether these badges that are framed have the loops/sliders is not mentioned in the description. Unfortunately many framed lots of badges that were collected in the early part of the last century had the fixings removed, fine if left intact in the frame.

Rob



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