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Searching for Royal Artillery Pagri Collectors

I am searching for forum members who seriously collect Royal Artillery pagri and are willing to exchange emails. Thank you.

I have a modest collection!

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Originally Posted by manchesters (Post 442615)

I have a modest collection!

PM me

What he said.

Marc :)

It has been suggested I share some of my questions with the entire forum.

Other than dealer websites and old auction catalogs, I don't have a good feel for how collectible these pagri are. Either you are a Royal Artillery collector or you have an interest in a specific artillery unit.

Have these pagri been faked? If yes, how wide spread is this?

What makes some pagri more desireale than others? Does a pagri from the Litchfield collection demand a higher price? Were some pagri locally made in India or Hong Kong and that makes them more desirable?

Have any pagri surfaced which weren't referenced by Litchield?

I am looking to learn and any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Thanks for posting this and I will add my views.

1. Have these pagri been faked? If yes, how wide spread is this?

Firstly I am assuming you are concerned with the type of badge that was worn on the red and blue diamond rather than the earlier type of badge so i will answer with that in mind.

The badges, numbers & letters that appear on the diamond have not been commercially reproduced (yet) thats not to so some enterprising collector hasnt cobbled one or two together. You often see 'home made' diamonds of the wrong size, colour and cloth that a collector or dealer has added to make the badge look more complete but thats a minor issue.

2. What makes some pagri more desireable than others?

The RHA badges are the most expensive and the Indiam Mountain Batteries.
Field Batteries are the most common followed by Medium and Heavy. AA are scarcer, but prices vary as most dealers dont know which is worth more than others amongst the F,M,H and AA badges.

Does a pagri from the Litchfield collection demand a higher price?

No. They are all very much the same and how do you tell anyway?

4. Were some pagri locally made in India or Hong Kong and that makes them more desirable?

I think the majority of the badges were made overseas and are often crude with cast in fixings. Therefore they are not more desirable.

5. Have any pagri surfaced which weren't referenced by Litchield?

Yes, I have noted several.

regards

Thanks Simon.

In regard to pagri not referenced in Litchfield's book, do they bring higher prices?

Most of the pagri I see on dealers websites sell. Some faster than others. Are there that many Royal Artillery collectors?

How about the value of embroidered (bullion and non bullion) pagri?

How much value does a pagri add to a sun helmet, slouch hat or MK II helmet?

While the plain red and blue diamond is somewhat common on MK II helmets; I have only seen one with a unit specific pagri. I presume such headgear sells fast.

1. In regard to pagri not referenced in Litchfield's book, do they bring higher prices?

Not necessarily.

2. Most of the pagri I see on dealers websites sell. Some faster than others. Are there that many Royal Artillery collectors?

Yes

3. How about the value of embroidered (bullion and non bullion) pagri?

Bullion harder to find, ie - RHA

4. How much value does a pagri add to a sun helmet, slouch hat or MK II helmet?

The value of the badge

5. While the plain red and blue diamond is somewhat common on MK II helmets; I have only seen one with a unit specific pagri. I presume such headgear sells fast.

No idea